From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Frank van Maarseveen <frankvm@frankvm.com>,
Hua Zhong <hzhong@gmail.com>,
"'Linux Kernel Mailing List'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:58:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46DA0AB1.8050504@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1188577275.6649.133.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 20:49 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> Please send in a fix. If the fix involves making "nosharecache" the
>> default, then that is better than making policy decisions like this in the
>> kernel. The kernel should do what the user asks and not put in unnecessary
>> roadblocks.
>
> The best I can do given the constraints appears to be to have the kernel
> first look for a superblock that matches both the fsid and the
> user-specified mount options, and then spawn off a new superblock if
> that search fails. The attached patch does just that.
>
I'm glad I read the whole thread, because when I saw it earlier and
didn't respond, this was the question I had, why not replace the error
with forcing "nosharecache" on, which is essentially what you have done.
> Note that this is not the same as specifying nosharecache everywhere
> since nosharecache will never attempt to match an existing superblock.
>
> Finally, for the record: I still feel very uncomfortable about not being
> able to report the state of the client setup back to the sysadmin.
> AFAIK, the only way to do so is to stat the mountpoints, and compare the
> device ids.
>
Since clients may not know the server setup, and it may change for
policy or error recovery reason, I think this patch is needed.
The cases I think are common are:
1 - single export, multiple client mounts
export /base - rw
mount /base/share - ro [ client enforces r/o or not ]
mount /base/upload - rw
2 - export parts of a filesystem (/base) [ server enforces access ]
export /base/share - ro [ hopefully really r/o on client ]
export /base/upload - rw [ should work for write ]
3 - mount the same f/s with different permissions on client
export /base - rw
mount /base on point1 - rw [ hopefully really r/w ]
mount /base on point2 - ro [ hopefully r/o ]
I consider this *really* bad practice, but I have seen it in enough
places to know others don't agree. It assumes the client will protect
the r/o data.
4 - export f/s and part of f/s
export /base/ - ro
export /base/upload - rw
clients may mount one or both, with the upload directory as part of base
or elsewhere. What will happen here?
> Trond
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-02 0:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-30 21:07 recent nfs change causes autofs regression Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 22:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 22:47 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 23:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 23:30 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 23:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 23:44 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 4:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 4:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 4:47 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 4:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 5:09 ` Ian Kent
2007-08-31 7:50 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2007-08-31 1:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-31 4:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 3:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 3:57 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 4:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 4:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 5:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 5:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 7:40 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-08-31 8:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 8:51 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-08-31 16:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-03 13:20 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-09-03 13:43 ` Martin Knoblauch
2007-08-31 12:11 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 13:12 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31 13:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 14:42 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-09-04 7:51 ` David Howells
2007-08-31 8:28 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31 5:24 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 5:38 ` Ian Kent
2007-08-31 8:54 ` Martin Knoblauch
2007-08-31 16:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 19:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 18:47 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 19:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 19:35 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 19:41 ` Hua Zhong
2007-09-02 0:58 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-09-04 7:54 ` David Howells
2007-09-05 12:35 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-05 12:44 ` Ian Kent
2007-09-05 16:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-05 15:34 ` David Howells
2007-09-05 15:37 ` David Howells
2007-09-05 15:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-06 5:23 ` Ian Kent
2007-09-04 8:02 ` David Howells
2007-09-04 8:35 ` David Howells
2007-09-04 9:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 8:14 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31 9:05 ` Ian Kent
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