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From: Yan Burman <burman.yan@gmail.com>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Shem Multinymous <multinymous@gmail.com>,
	hdaps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [Hdaps-devel] [PATCH 2.6.23-rc2] hwmon: HP Mobile Data	Protection System 3D ACPI driver (resend)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:18:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46E5A680.9020706@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070830164132.GA21023@khazad-dum.debian.net>

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Yan Burman wrote:
>   
>>>> You can generate events on input devices, but I am not sure that's the
>>>> best way to go about it for this.  Things that block on read until an
>>>> interrupt happens might work better.
>>>>         
>>> You can do the latter via another (4th) input device.
>>>
>>>       
>> What's wrong with the stuff I did in mdps? a misc character device that
>> acts like /dev/rtc. Why does it have to be input device oriented?
>>     
>
> I am fine with a char device that acts like /dev/rtc, but if we are doing
> something as heavyweight as a char device, I'd rather we go full generic
> netlink and send the various events over it.  We'd have a netlink device
> that sends everything over various "channels" and just one input device that
> does joystick emulation, then.
>
> Can we use a simple sysfs attribute that blocks the caller on write and
> returns immediately on read? If it has to be more complicated than that, I'd
> rather we go the netlink path. Any other ideas that are not a char device,
> not a netlink socket, not an input device node, and not a sysfs attribute?
>
>   
But, how are you going to make the sysfs attribute look generic so that 
application will not have to know whether to go
to /sys/.../mdps /sys/.../hdaps/ or /sys/.../whatever?

I'd probably prefer netlink, since this way it's something more generic 
and if some more functionality is added, you don't need to start
adding more sysfs attributes.

Sorry it took me a while to respond - I was too busy lately.

>> I also looked at what you did in the patches as well as the modified 
>> hdapsd. I'm doing the raw input device right now in the mdps, but I have a 
>> suggestion.
>>
>> It seems to me that right now there are at least 3 drivers that provide the 
>> same functionality - hdaps, ams and mdps. Why not create the input device
>> that exports raw accelerometer data with a name that is generic - something 
>> like accel/input or something along those lines. This way hdapsd could work
>> with any driver that provides the functionality without being hdaps 
>> specific.
>>     
>
> THAT is the idea, IMO.  But the naming is userspace's problem (thorugh
> udev), not ours :-)
>
> Or do you mean the "hardware port" part of the input device? If so, yes, we
> should try to make standard names for those as that makes it easier for
> userspace.
>
>   


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-10 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-11 11:26 [PATCH 2.6.23-rc2] hwmon: HP Mobile Data Protection System 3D ACPI driver (resend) Yan Burman
2007-08-11 17:14 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-25 10:25 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-25 11:36   ` Yan Burman
2007-08-27  8:28     ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-27 17:11     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-29 17:05       ` Yan Burman
2007-08-29 23:30         ` [Hdaps-devel] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-30  0:31           ` Shem Multinymous
2007-08-30 12:42             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-30 15:44             ` Yan Burman
2007-08-30 16:41               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-08-30 19:39                 ` Kay Sievers
2007-09-10 20:18                 ` Yan Burman [this message]
2007-09-10 22:55                   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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