From: Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@gmail.com>
To: Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Stezenbach <js@linuxtv.org>,
Steven Toth <stoth@hauppauge.com>,
"video4linux-list@redhat.com" <video4linux-list@redhat.com>,
"linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" <linux-dvb@linuxtv.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:52:59 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46EB9D6B.4040009@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9def9db0709141849r4dc489c2h88ac99e3d4f56d50@mail.gmail.com>
Hello Markus,
Markus Rechberger wrote:
> The main discussion in this thread was about drivers in userspace
> are bad because the API will allow binary drivers. The guy
> who works for Hauppauge (again I also have good contacts
> at Hauppauge Europe) writes it's bad - for no technical reason.
AFAICS, Steven raised the same thoughts what i had.
> If someone points out that it is bad (after reading the whole thread)
> why don't we put X.org, bash, well everything into the kernel?
I am not saying that userspace is bad. In fact i am all for userspace,
_if_ there is much of a complication. For example we have had largely
complex devices. You might like to read this thread a while back.
This was the reason why we started up libdvbapi/mti (For those who don't
know what it is, libdvbapi/mti is a userspace approach for having device
support in userspace with complicated tuning algorithms with a lot of
calculations)
http://search.gmane.org/?query=Re%3A+%5BRFC%5D+Userspace+extensions%2C+was+Re%3A+%5Blinux-dvb%5D+%5Bpatch%5D+Add+support+for+different+tuning+algorithms&author=&group=linux.drivers.dvb&sort=relevance&DEFAULTOP=and&query=
For that demodulator and a successor for the same, i had finally moved
the same to in kernel with a lot of trouble. Maybe it is not as precise
as it should have been.
But what i mean is that we should use such approaches if there needs to
be a heavy valid reason and if there are many more devices going that
way, we should definitely move to userspace. Maybe the userspace idea is
a bit still immature.
That said, i don't see any such complexities with the XC3028
Manu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-15 8:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <1189626560.5160.57.camel@gaivota>
[not found] ` <d9def9db0709121546h67d3d1ceuf001ab1d798fde92@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-12 23:10 ` [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner Markus Rechberger
2007-09-13 4:58 ` Dâniel Fraga
[not found] ` <d9def9db0709122258l4b05546dq2e370e67a2a1404@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-13 12:40 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-13 13:17 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-17 22:05 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-13 13:13 ` [linux-dvb] " Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-13 14:12 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-13 15:50 ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-13 16:08 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-13 16:22 ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-13 16:32 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-13 16:52 ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-13 20:36 ` Steven Toth
2007-09-13 23:17 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14 1:03 ` Steven Toth
2007-09-14 6:38 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14 7:57 ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-14 9:15 ` Joerg Roedel
2007-09-14 12:00 ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-14 16:09 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14 18:52 ` Alex Deucher
2007-09-14 18:59 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14 19:38 ` Alex Deucher
2007-09-14 16:13 ` Joerg Roedel
2007-09-14 16:56 ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-14 17:40 ` Joerg Roedel
2007-09-14 11:38 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-14 16:36 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14 17:32 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-14 17:46 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14 18:29 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-14 19:20 ` Michael Krufky
2007-09-14 21:07 ` Aidan Thornton
2007-09-14 21:16 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-14 21:53 ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-14 20:43 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-15 1:29 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15 1:49 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-15 13:16 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-15 13:38 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15 14:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-15 14:33 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15 14:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-15 16:58 ` Bernard Jungen
2007-09-16 11:30 ` Hans Verkuil
2007-09-17 8:46 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15 1:49 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15 3:09 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-15 12:59 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15 8:52 ` Manu Abraham [this message]
2007-09-15 13:34 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-15 14:56 ` Steven Toth
2007-09-14 13:52 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-14 16:18 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-18 8:19 ` Jelle Foks
2007-09-18 8:55 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-18 22:56 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-18 23:00 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-14 0:49 ` hermann pitton
2007-09-14 12:10 ` Alan Cox
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