From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: "Can E. Acar" <can.acar@pro-g.com.tr>
Cc: misc@openbsd.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net>,
Eben Moglen <moglen@softwarefreedom.org>,
Lawrence Lessig <lessig_from_web@pobox.com>,
"Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@softwarefreedom.org>,
Matt Norwood <norwood@softwarefreedom.org>
Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:40:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46ED86A1.4060402@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46ED7A8F.1020304@pro-g.com.tr>
Can E. Acar wrote:
> There have been complete silence from the leaders of their own
> community (Linux Kernel developers, FSF, ...) all perhaps used your
Regarding "Linux Kernel developers," false. _I_ have posted. ath5k,
wireless, and net driver maintainers have all sent emails. License and
code fixes have been committed.
As for the FSF: It has been repeatedly stated that the FSF has zip to
do with this. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Zilch. Linux != FSF.
> argument to convince themselves that this is not their problem.
> However, from an outsider point of view, this lack of silence means
> an agreement to something that is ethically and legally wrong.
You are failing to observe that changes have been made in response to
criticism.
Given that Linux Kernel devs have responded both with code changes and
emails, "silence" and "inaction" are provably false.
And since the changes go ath5k->linville->me->linus or
ath5k->linville->me->davem->linus, I am a step in the approval chain. I
do know what I'm talking about. :)
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-16 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-16 18:48 Wasting our Freedom Can E. Acar
2007-09-16 19:40 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-09-16 19:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-16 20:39 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-16 21:11 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-17 9:10 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-17 12:08 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-18 13:58 ` frantisek holop
2007-09-16 21:12 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-16 23:16 ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-16 23:40 ` david
2007-09-17 0:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-17 9:30 ` Henning Brauer
2007-09-17 12:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 13:15 ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-17 13:19 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2007-09-17 13:27 ` Sean
2007-09-17 13:33 ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-17 13:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 21:39 ` Ingo Schwarze
2007-09-17 23:56 ` Ingo Schwarze
2007-09-17 7:47 ` Helge Hafting
2007-09-17 11:50 ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-17 13:28 ` David Newall
2007-09-18 11:17 ` Helge Hafting
2007-09-17 11:18 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-17 12:19 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-17 13:39 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-17 15:20 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 19:50 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-17 20:35 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-17 21:09 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 23:35 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-18 0:03 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-18 0:44 ` Al Viro
2007-09-17 12:55 ` Claudio Jeker
2007-09-17 13:34 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-17 19:23 ` Claudio Jeker
2007-09-17 20:43 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-17 22:06 ` Can E. Acar
2007-09-17 23:47 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-18 18:55 ` Can E. Acar
2007-09-18 19:04 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-09-18 19:51 ` Can E. Acar
2007-09-18 19:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-18 22:24 ` Martin Schlemmer
2007-09-18 9:00 ` Henning Brauer
2007-09-18 11:29 ` Marco Peereboom
2007-09-18 12:04 ` Wasting our Bandwidth Xavier Bestel
2007-09-18 12:24 ` Marco Peereboom
2007-09-18 12:56 ` Wasting our Freedom Theodore Tso
2007-09-18 11:28 ` Gilles Chehade
2007-09-18 15:47 ` Denis Doroshenko
2007-09-18 15:55 ` frantisek holop
2007-09-18 17:15 ` Marco Peereboom
2007-09-18 23:34 ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-19 0:24 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-16 21:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-16 22:37 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-16 23:09 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 0:29 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 0:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 1:35 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 1:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 3:37 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 1:19 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-17 1:40 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 1:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 9:20 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-17 13:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 15:15 ` Paul de Weerd
2007-09-17 15:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 18:02 ` Paul de Weerd
2007-09-17 18:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 19:27 ` Paul de Weerd
[not found] ` <c746fc3a3d81920b224537f96efe1605@localhost>
2007-09-17 19:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 15:25 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 16:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 17:14 ` Wasting My Time (was Re: Wasting our Freedom) Eric Furman
2007-09-16 22:19 ` Wasting our Freedom David Schwartz
2007-09-17 11:20 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-17 11:57 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-17 12:06 ` Hannah Schroeter
2007-09-17 12:36 ` David Schwartz
2007-09-16 20:32 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-17 3:00 ` Can E. Acar
2007-09-17 3:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-17 5:33 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-17 6:43 ` Can E. Acar
2007-09-17 7:36 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-17 12:10 ` Krzysztof Halasa
[not found] <947Fl-2qO-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <948rP-3pK-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <949e6-4Ed-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <949Hd-5vb-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <94l5J-6gO-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <94oZy-3Sa-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <94qIg-6Ft-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-18 11:16 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-09-18 11:46 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-09-18 11:49 ` Jason Dixon
[not found] <5C8C3794-C62A-4935-8267-81080CCF6867@dixongroup.net>
2007-09-15 10:33 ` J.C. Roberts
2007-09-15 10:58 ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-16 7:32 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-16 7:52 ` J.C. Roberts
2007-09-16 8:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-16 8:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-09-16 9:17 ` J.C. Roberts
2007-09-16 9:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-16 15:23 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-16 20:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-17 8:22 ` J.C. Roberts
2007-09-17 14:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 14:44 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-16 20:33 ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-16 8:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-16 10:05 ` J.C. Roberts
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