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From: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: linux-tiny@selenic.com,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	CE Linux Developers List <celinux-dev@tree.celinuxforum.org>,
	Michael Opdenacker <michael@free-electrons.com>
Subject: Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:58:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46F2ED1E.3090407@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200709201538.43093.rob@landley.net>

Rob Landley wrote:
> So instead of:
>   printk(KERN_NOTICE "Fruit=%d\n", banana);
> It would now be:
>   printk(KERN_NOTICE, "Fruit=%d\n", banana);
> 
> Change the header from:
>   #define KERN_NOTICE "<5>"
> to:
>   #define KERN_NOTICE 5
> 
> Then you can change the printk guts to do something vaguely like (untested):
> #define printk(arg1, arg2, ...) actual_printk("<" #arg1 ">" arg2, __VA_ARGS__)
...
> [then] the
> compiler's dead code eliminator zaps the printks you don't care about so they
> don't bloat the kernel image.

I agree in principal with the idea, but there are some major
practical wrinkles that would have to be worked through.

First, not all printks that are missing a log level should have one.
People do stuff like this:

printk(KERN_INFO "interesting info follows:");
...
printk("var5: %d\n", var5);

Or even things that evaluate to:
printk("");

The code inside printk currently has to examine the
strings, looking for line feeds and inserting log levels.

Given that there are about 60,000 printks in the kernel (and that's
not counting wrappers like dprintk() and other locally-defined
functions and macros) it would be a huge task to examine the code
and differentiate strings that really start a new log message
(and thus should have an attached log level) and strings
that don't.
 -- Tim


=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Corporation of America
=============================


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-20 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-19 18:03 [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival Tim Bird
2007-09-19 18:47 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-09-19 19:31   ` Tim Bird
2007-09-19 19:01 ` Christian MICHON
2007-09-19 19:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-19 19:41   ` Tim Bird
2007-09-19 20:45     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-19 21:29       ` Tim Bird
2007-09-19 22:29         ` Michael Opdenacker
2007-09-19 21:28 ` [Celinux-dev] " Andrew Morton
2007-09-19 21:41   ` Tim Bird
2007-09-19 22:38     ` Michael Opdenacker
2007-09-20  9:10       ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-20 17:10         ` Monster switch for small size (was Linux-tiny revival) Tim Bird
2007-09-20 21:41           ` Rob Landley
2007-09-20 20:50             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-09-21  6:35             ` Christian MICHON
2007-09-20 23:02   ` [Celinux-dev] [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival Rob Landley
2007-09-20 20:38 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-20 19:58   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-09-20 20:22     ` printk proposal - (was Linux-tiny project revival) Tim Bird
2007-09-21 19:07       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-09-21 20:53         ` Rob Landley
2007-09-20 22:02     ` [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival Rob Landley
2007-09-20 21:22       ` Jared Hulbert
2007-09-20 22:53         ` Rob Landley
2007-09-20 22:15       ` [Celinux-dev] " Gross, Mark
2007-09-21  0:57         ` Message codes (Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival) Oleg Verych
2007-09-21 14:18           ` Gross, Mark
2007-09-21 21:15             ` Rob Landley
2007-09-21 22:12               ` Gross, Mark
2007-09-21 22:33                 ` Joe Perches
2007-09-21 22:39                   ` Gross, Mark
2007-09-22  1:55               ` Oleg Verych
2007-09-21 13:29       ` [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival Dick Streefland
2007-09-20 20:16   ` Joe Perches
2007-09-25 11:43     ` [Celinux-dev] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-09-20 21:26   ` Indan Zupancic
2007-09-20 23:18     ` Rob Landley
2007-09-20 23:06       ` Indan Zupancic
2007-09-21  6:29         ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-24 18:13           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-26  6:24             ` Rob Landley
2007-09-21 17:16       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-21 17:45         ` Joe Perches
2007-09-21 23:05           ` Rob Landley
2007-09-21 23:08             ` Joe Perches
2007-09-21 21:34       ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-21 22:05         ` Joe Perches
2007-09-21 22:57           ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-20 21:58   ` Tim Bird [this message]
2007-09-20 22:14     ` Joe Perches
2007-09-21  0:28       ` Rob Landley
2007-09-21  0:03         ` Joe Perches
2007-09-20 23:11     ` Rob Landley
2007-09-21 12:27   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-27  7:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-09-27 16:35     ` Indan Zupancic
2007-09-27 22:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-09-28  8:39         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-09-30 20:37           ` Jörn Engel
2007-09-28  0:06     ` Rob Landley
2007-09-28 14:36       ` Dick Streefland

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