From: Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey@bull.net>
To: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@sw.ru>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: IPC: sleeping function called ...
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:11:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46F398C3.3000804@bull.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070921084453.GA1758@ff.dom.local>
Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 03:08:42PM +0200, Nadia Derbey wrote:
>
>>Nadia Derbey wrote:
>>
>>>Jarek Poplawski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 08:24:58AM +0200, Nadia Derbey wrote:
>
> ...
>
>>>Actually, ipc_lock() is called most of the time without the
>>>ipc_ids.mutex held and without refcounting (maybe you didn't look for
>>>the msg_lock() sem_lock() and shm_lock() too).
>>>So I think disabling preemption is needed, isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>>>so, these rcu_read_locks() don't
>>>>work here at all. So, probably I miss something again, but IMHO,
>>>>these rcu_read_locks/unlocks could be removed here or in
>>>>ipc_lock_by_ptr() and it should be enough to use them directly, where
>>>>really needed, e.g., in msg.c do_msgrcv().
>>>>
>>>
>>>I have to check for the ipc_lock_by_ptr(): may be you're right!
>>>
>>
>>So, here is the ipc_lock_by_ptr() status:
>>1) do_msgsnd(), semctl_main(GETALL), semctl_main(SETALL) and find_undo()
>>call it inside a refcounting.
>> ==> no rcu read section needed.
>>
>>2) *_exit_ns(), ipc_findkey() and sysvipc_find_ipc() call it under the
>>ipc_ids mutex lock.
>> ==> no rcu read section needed.
>>
>>3) do_msgrcv() is the only path where ipc_lock_by_ptr() is not called
>>under refcounting
>> ==> rcu read section + some more checks needed once the spnlock is
>> taken.
>>
>>So I completely agree with you: we might remove the rcu_read_lock() from
>>the ipc_lock_by_ptr() and explicitley call it when needed (actually, it
>>is already explicitly called in do_msgrcv()).
>
>
> Yes, IMHO, it should be at least more readable when we can see where
> this RCU is really needed.
>
> But, after 3-rd look, I have a few more doubts (btw., 3 looks are
> still not enough for me with this code, so I cerainly can miss many
> things here, and, alas, I manged to see util and msg code only):
>
> 1. ipc_lock() and ipc_lock_check() are used without ipc_ids.mutex,
> but it's probably wrong: they call idr_find() with ipc_ids pointer
> which needs this mutex, just like in similar code in: ipc_findkey(),
> ipc_get_maxid() or sysvipc_find_ipc().
>
> 2. I'm not sure this refcounting with ipc_rcu_getref/putref is SMP
> safe (memory barriers): it's not atomic, so locking is needed, but
> e.g. in do_msgsnd() kern_ipc_perm lock is used for this, while
> freeque() calls ipc_rcu_putref() with ipc_ids mutex only.
OK, but freeque() freeary() and shm_destroy() are special cases:
we have the following path:
mutex_lock(ipc_ids.mutex)
...
ipc_lock(ipcp)
... do whatever cleaning is needed ...
ipc_rmid(ipcp)
ipc_unlock(ipcp)
....
ipc_rcu_putref(ipcp)
Once the rmid has been done the ipc structure is considered as not
visible anymore from the user side ==> any syscall called with the
corresponding id will return invalid.
The only thing that could happen is that this structure be reused for a
newly allocated ipc structure. But this too cannot happen since we are
under the ipc_ids mutex lock.
Am I wrong?
Answers to the other questions in separate e-mails
Regards,
Nadia
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-21 10:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-18 9:17 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: IPC: sleeping function called Alexey Dobriyan
2007-09-18 9:42 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 10:17 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 10:30 ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-18 10:34 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20070918142451.418b3b51@twins>
2007-09-18 16:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-18 16:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 18:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-18 19:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 20:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: annotate rcu_read_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 20:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] lockdep: rcu_dereference() vs rcu_read_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 21:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-18 10:27 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: IPC: sleeping function called Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 10:32 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-09-18 14:55 ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-18 17:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 9:18 ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-19 14:07 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-20 6:24 ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-20 7:28 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-20 8:21 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-20 8:52 ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-20 13:08 ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-20 13:26 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-21 8:44 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-21 10:11 ` Nadia Derbey [this message]
2007-09-21 11:03 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-21 11:15 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-24 6:54 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-24 7:43 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-24 8:18 ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-24 9:50 ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-25 11:47 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-26 6:13 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-20 13:19 ` Jarek Poplawski
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