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From: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthias Hensler <matthias@wspse.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	richard kennedy <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: Processes spinning forever, apparently in lock_timer_base()?
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:16:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46F3EE62.9010907@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0709211623190.16442@blonde.wat.veritas.com>

On 09/21/2007 11:58 AM, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> Looking at the 2.6.18-2.6.23 code, I'm uncertain what to try instead.
> There is a refresh_vm_stats function which we could call (then retest
> the break condition) just before resorting to congestion_wait.  But
> the big NUMA people might get very upset with me calling that too
> often: causing a thundering herd of bouncing cachelines which that
> was all designed to avoid.  And it's not obvious to me what condition
> to test for dirty_thresh "too low".
> 
> I believe Peter gave all this quite a lot of thought when he was
> making the rc6-mm1 changes, and I'd rather defer to him for a
> suggestion of what best to do in earlier releases.  Or maybe he'll
> just point out how this couldn't have been a problem before.
> 
> Or there is is Richard's patch, which I haven't considered, but
> Andrew was not quite satisfied with it - partly because he'd like
> to understand how the situation could come about first, perhaps
> we have now got an explanation.
> 

My patch is just Richard's with the added requirement that we loop
some minimum number of times before exiting balance_dirty_pages()
with unfinished work.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-21 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-01 22:39 Processes spinning forever, apparently in lock_timer_base()? Chuck Ebbert
2007-08-02 10:37 ` richard kennedy
2007-08-03 18:34 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-04  8:44   ` Matthias Hensler
2007-08-09  9:59     ` Matthias Hensler
2007-08-09 16:55       ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-09 17:37         ` Matthias Hensler
2007-09-20 21:07         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-09-20 21:29           ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-20 22:04             ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-09-20 22:36               ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-20 22:44                 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-09-21  8:08                 ` Matthias Hensler
2007-09-21  8:22                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 10:25                 ` richard kennedy
2007-09-21 10:33                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21 10:47                     ` richard kennedy
2007-09-22 12:08                     ` richard kennedy
2007-09-21  9:39             ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-21 15:43               ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-09-21 15:58               ` Hugh Dickins
2007-09-21 16:16                 ` Chuck Ebbert [this message]
2007-09-21 18:54                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-29 18:55                 ` Bruno Wolff III
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2007-08-03 20:14 Oleg Nesterov

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