From: Zhu Yanjun <yanjun.zhu@linux.dev>
To: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>, Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>
Cc: Adithya Jayachandran <ajayachandra@nvidia.com>,
Alex Mastro <amastro@fb.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>, Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Jacob Pan <jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Josh Hilke <jrhilke@google.com>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Philipp Stanner <pstanner@redhat.com>,
Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Tomita Moeko <tomitamoeko@gmail.com>,
Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>, William Tu <witu@nvidia.com>,
Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, Yunxiang Li <Yunxiang.Li@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/21] vfio/pci: Base support to preserve a VFIO device file across Live Update
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 07:49:44 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46bbdad1-486d-4cb1-915f-577b00de827f@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dadaeeb9-4008-4450-8b61-e147a2af38b2@linux.dev>
在 2025/11/27 20:56, Zhu Yanjun 写道:
>
> 在 2025/11/26 11:35, David Matlack 写道:
>> This series adds the base support to preserve a VFIO device file across
>> a Live Update. "Base support" means that this allows userspace to
>> safetly preserve a VFIO device file with LIVEUPDATE_SESSION_PRESERVE_FD
>> and retrieve a preserved VFIO device file with
>> LIVEUPDATE_SESSION_RETRIEVE_FD, but the device itself is not preserved
>> in a fully running state across Live Update.
>>
>> This series unblocks 2 parallel but related streams of work:
>>
>> - iommufd preservation across Live Update. This work spans iommufd,
>> the IOMMU subsystem, and IOMMU drivers [1]
>>
>> - Preservation of VFIO device state across Live Update (config space,
>> BAR addresses, power state, SR-IOV state, etc.). This work spans both
>> VFIO and the core PCI subsystem.
>>
>> While we need all of the above to fully preserve a VFIO device across a
>> Live Update without disrupting the workload on the device, this series
>> aims to be functional and safe enough to merge as the first incremental
>> step toward that goal.
>>
>> Areas for Discussion
>> --------------------
>>
>> BDF Stability across Live Update
>>
>> The PCI support for tracking preserved devices across a Live Update to
>> prevent auto-probing relies on PCI segment numbers and BDFs remaining
>> stable. For now I have disallowed VFs, as the BDFs assigned to VFs can
>> vary depending on how the kernel chooses to allocate bus numbers. For
>> non-VFs I am wondering if there is any more needed to ensure BDF
>> stability across Live Update.
>>
>> While we would like to support many different systems and
>> configurations in due time (including preserving VFs), I'd like to
>> keep this first serses constrained to simple use-cases.
>>
>> FLB Locking
>>
>> I don't see a way to properly synchronize pci_flb_finish() with
>> pci_liveupdate_incoming_is_preserved() since the incoming FLB mutex is
>> dropped by liveupdate_flb_get_incoming() when it returns the pointer
>> to the object, and taking pci_flb_incoming_lock in pci_flb_finish()
>> could result in a deadlock due to reversing the lock ordering.
>>
>> FLB Retrieving
>>
>> The first patch of this series includes a fix to prevent an FLB from
>> being retrieved again it is finished. I am wondering if this is the
>> right approach or if subsystems are expected to stop calling
>> liveupdate_flb_get_incoming() after an FLB is finished.
>>
>> Testing
>> -------
>>
>> The patches at the end of this series provide comprehensive selftests
>> for the new code added by this series. The selftests have been validated
>> in both a VM environment using a virtio-net PCIe device, and in a
>> baremetal environment on an Intel EMR server with an Intel DSA device.
>>
>> Here is an example of how to run the new selftests:
>
> Hi, David
>
> ERROR: modpost: "liveupdate_register_file_handler" [drivers/vfio/pci/
> vfio-pci-core.ko] undefined!
>
> ERROR: modpost: "vfio_pci_ops" [drivers/vfio/pci/vfio-pci-core.ko]
> undefined!
> ERROR: modpost: "liveupdate_enabled" [drivers/vfio/pci/vfio-pci-core.ko]
> undefined!
> ERROR: modpost: "liveupdate_unregister_file_handler" [drivers/vfio/pci/
> vfio-pci-core.ko] undefined!
> ERROR: modpost: "vfio_device_fops" [drivers/vfio/pci/vfio-pci-core.ko]
> undefined!
> ERROR: modpost: "vfio_pci_is_intel_display" [drivers/vfio/pci/vfio-pci-
> core.ko] undefined!
> ERROR: modpost: "vfio_pci_liveupdate_init" [drivers/vfio/pci/vfio-
> pci.ko] undefined!
> ERROR: modpost: "vfio_pci_liveupdate_cleanup" [drivers/vfio/pci/vfio-
> pci.ko] undefined!
> make[4]: *** [scripts/Makefile.modpost:147: Module.symvers] Error 1
> make[3]: *** [Makefile:1960: modpost] Error 2
>
> After I git clone the source code from the link https://github.com/
> dmatlack/linux/tree/liveupdate/vfio/cdev/v1,
>
> I found the above errors when I built the source code.
>
> Perhaps the above errors can be solved by EXPORT_SYMBOL.
>
> But I am not sure if a better solution can solve the above problems or not.
I reviewed this patch series in detail. If I’m understanding it
correctly, there appears to be a cyclic dependency issue. Specifically,
some functions in kernel module A depend on kernel module B, while at
the same time certain functions in module B depend on module A.
I’m not entirely sure whether this constitutes a real problem or if it’s
intentional design.
Yanjun.Zhu
>
> Thanks,
>
> Yanjun.Zhu
>
>>
>> vfio_pci_liveupdate_uapi_test:
>>
>> $ tools/testing/selftests/vfio/scripts/setup.sh 0000:00:04.0
>> $ tools/testing/selftests/vfio/vfio_pci_liveupdate_uapi_test
>> 0000:00:04.0
>> $ tools/testing/selftests/vfio/scripts/cleanup.sh
>>
>> vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test:
>>
>> $ tools/testing/selftests/vfio/scripts/setup.sh 0000:00:04.0
>> $ tools/testing/selftests/vfio/vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test --
>> stage 1 0000:00:04.0
>> $ kexec [...] # NOTE: distro-dependent
>>
>> $ tools/testing/selftests/vfio/scripts/setup.sh 0000:00:04.0
>> $ tools/testing/selftests/vfio/vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test --
>> stage 2 0000:00:04.0
>> $ tools/testing/selftests/vfio/scripts/cleanup.sh
>>
>> Dependencies
>> ------------
>>
>> This series was constructed on top of several in-flight series and on
>> top of mm-nonmm-unstable [2].
>>
>> +-- This series
>> |
>> +-- [PATCH v2 00/18] vfio: selftests: Support for multi-device tests
>> | https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20251112192232.442761-1-
>> dmatlack@google.com/
>> |
>> +-- [PATCH v3 0/4] vfio: selftests: update DMA mapping tests to use
>> queried IOVA ranges
>> | https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20251111-iova-ranges-
>> v3-0-7960244642c5@fb.com/
>> |
>> +-- [PATCH v8 0/2] Live Update: File-Lifecycle-Bound (FLB) State
>> | https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20251125225006.3722394-1-
>> pasha.tatashin@soleen.com/
>> |
>> +-- [PATCH v8 00/18] Live Update Orchestrator
>> | https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20251125165850.3389713-1-
>> pasha.tatashin@soleen.com/
>> |
>>
>> To simplify checking out the code, this series can be found on GitHub:
>>
>> https://github.com/dmatlack/linux/tree/liveupdate/vfio/cdev/v1
>>
>> Changelog
>> ---------
>>
>> v1:
>> - Rebase series on top of LUOv8 and VFIO selftests improvements
>> - Drop commits to preserve config space fields across Live Update.
>> These changes require changes to the PCI layer. For exmaple,
>> preserving rbars could lead to an inconsistent device state until
>> device BARs addresses are preserved across Live Update.
>> - Drop commits to preserve Bus Master Enable on the device. There's no
>> reason to preserve this until iommufd preservation is fully working.
>> Furthermore, preserving Bus Master Enable could lead to memory
>> corruption when the device if the device is bound to the default
>> identity-map domain after Live Update.
>> - Drop commits to preserve saved PCI state. This work is not needed
>> until we are ready to preserve the device's config space, and
>> requires more thought to make the PCI state data layout ABI-friendly.
>> - Add support to skip auto-probing devices that are preserved by VFIO
>> to avoid them getting bound to a different driver by the next kernel.
>> - Restrict device preservation further (no VFs, no intel-graphics).
>> - Various refactoring and small edits to improve readability and
>> eliminate code duplication.
>>
>> rfc: https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20251018000713.677779-1-
>> vipinsh@google.com/
>>
>> Cc: Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>
>> Cc: Adithya Jayachandran <ajayachandra@nvidia.com>
>> Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
>> Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
>> Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
>> Cc: William Tu <witu@nvidia.com>
>> Cc: Jacob Pan <jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>
>> Cc: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
>> Cc: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
>> Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
>> Cc: Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Josh Hilke <jrhilke@google.com>
>> Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20250928190624.3735830-1-
>> skhawaja@google.com/
>> [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/akpm/mm.git/log/?
>> h=mm-nonmm-unstable
>>
>> David Matlack (12):
>> liveupdate: luo_flb: Prevent retrieve() after finish()
>> PCI: Add API to track PCI devices preserved across Live Update
>> PCI: Require driver_override for incoming Live Update preserved
>> devices
>> vfio/pci: Notify PCI subsystem about devices preserved across Live
>> Update
>> vfio: Enforce preserved devices are retrieved via
>> LIVEUPDATE_SESSION_RETRIEVE_FD
>> vfio/pci: Store Live Update state in struct vfio_pci_core_device
>> vfio: selftests: Add Makefile support for TEST_GEN_PROGS_EXTENDED
>> vfio: selftests: Add vfio_pci_liveupdate_uapi_test
>> vfio: selftests: Expose iommu_modes to tests
>> vfio: selftests: Expose low-level helper routines for setting up
>> struct vfio_pci_device
>> vfio: selftests: Verify that opening VFIO device fails during Live
>> Update
>> vfio: selftests: Add continuous DMA to vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test
>>
>> Vipin Sharma (9):
>> vfio/pci: Register a file handler with Live Update Orchestrator
>> vfio/pci: Preserve vfio-pci device files across Live Update
>> vfio/pci: Retrieve preserved device files after Live Update
>> vfio/pci: Skip reset of preserved device after Live Update
>> selftests/liveupdate: Move luo_test_utils.* into a reusable library
>> selftests/liveupdate: Add helpers to preserve/retrieve FDs
>> vfio: selftests: Build liveupdate library in VFIO selftests
>> vfio: selftests: Initialize vfio_pci_device using a VFIO cdev FD
>> vfio: selftests: Add vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test
>>
>> MAINTAINERS | 1 +
>> drivers/pci/Makefile | 1 +
>> drivers/pci/liveupdate.c | 248 ++++++++++++++++
>> drivers/pci/pci-driver.c | 12 +-
>> drivers/vfio/device_cdev.c | 25 +-
>> drivers/vfio/group.c | 9 +
>> drivers/vfio/pci/Makefile | 1 +
>> drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci.c | 11 +-
>> drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_core.c | 23 +-
>> drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_liveupdate.c | 278 ++++++++++++++++++
>> drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_priv.h | 16 +
>> drivers/vfio/vfio.h | 13 -
>> drivers/vfio/vfio_main.c | 22 +-
>> include/linux/kho/abi/pci.h | 53 ++++
>> include/linux/kho/abi/vfio_pci.h | 45 +++
>> include/linux/liveupdate.h | 3 +
>> include/linux/pci.h | 38 +++
>> include/linux/vfio.h | 51 ++++
>> include/linux/vfio_pci_core.h | 7 +
>> kernel/liveupdate/luo_flb.c | 4 +
>> tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/.gitignore | 1 +
>> tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/Makefile | 14 +-
>> .../include/libliveupdate.h} | 11 +-
>> .../selftests/liveupdate/lib/libliveupdate.mk | 20 ++
>> .../{luo_test_utils.c => lib/liveupdate.c} | 43 ++-
>> .../selftests/liveupdate/luo_kexec_simple.c | 2 +-
>> .../selftests/liveupdate/luo_multi_session.c | 2 +-
>> tools/testing/selftests/vfio/Makefile | 23 +-
>> .../vfio/lib/include/libvfio/iommu.h | 2 +
>> .../lib/include/libvfio/vfio_pci_device.h | 8 +
>> tools/testing/selftests/vfio/lib/iommu.c | 4 +-
>> .../selftests/vfio/lib/vfio_pci_device.c | 60 +++-
>> .../vfio/vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test.c | 255 ++++++++++++++++
>> .../vfio/vfio_pci_liveupdate_uapi_test.c | 93 ++++++
>> 34 files changed, 1313 insertions(+), 86 deletions(-)
>> create mode 100644 drivers/pci/liveupdate.c
>> create mode 100644 drivers/vfio/pci/vfio_pci_liveupdate.c
>> create mode 100644 include/linux/kho/abi/pci.h
>> create mode 100644 include/linux/kho/abi/vfio_pci.h
>> rename tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/{luo_test_utils.h => lib/
>> include/libliveupdate.h} (80%)
>> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/lib/
>> libliveupdate.mk
>> rename tools/testing/selftests/liveupdate/{luo_test_utils.c => lib/
>> liveupdate.c} (89%)
>> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/vfio/
>> vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test.c
>> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/vfio/
>> vfio_pci_liveupdate_uapi_test.c
>>
--
Best Regards,
Yanjun.Zhu
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-26 19:35 [PATCH 00/21] vfio/pci: Base support to preserve a VFIO device file across Live Update David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 01/21] liveupdate: luo_flb: Prevent retrieve() after finish() David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 02/21] PCI: Add API to track PCI devices preserved across Live Update David Matlack
2025-11-29 10:34 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-11-29 20:10 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-30 0:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-30 1:20 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-01 13:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-01 18:54 ` David Matlack
2025-12-02 6:20 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-12-02 14:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-02 16:36 ` Chris Li
2025-12-02 18:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-02 21:20 ` Chris Li
2025-12-03 5:44 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-12-01 21:23 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-29 20:15 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-01 18:07 ` David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 03/21] PCI: Require driver_override for incoming Live Update preserved devices David Matlack
2025-12-02 21:16 ` David Matlack
2025-12-02 21:24 ` Chris Li
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 04/21] vfio/pci: Register a file handler with Live Update Orchestrator David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 05/21] vfio/pci: Preserve vfio-pci device files across Live Update David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 06/21] vfio/pci: Retrieve preserved device files after " David Matlack
2025-12-03 12:55 ` Alex Mastro
2025-12-03 15:45 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-03 17:29 ` David Matlack
2025-12-04 10:30 ` Alex Mastro
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 07/21] vfio/pci: Notify PCI subsystem about devices preserved across " David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 08/21] vfio: Enforce preserved devices are retrieved via LIVEUPDATE_SESSION_RETRIEVE_FD David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 09/21] vfio/pci: Store Live Update state in struct vfio_pci_core_device David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 10/21] vfio/pci: Skip reset of preserved device after Live Update David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 11/21] selftests/liveupdate: Move luo_test_utils.* into a reusable library David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:35 ` [PATCH 12/21] selftests/liveupdate: Add helpers to preserve/retrieve FDs David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 13/21] vfio: selftests: Build liveupdate library in VFIO selftests David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 14/21] vfio: selftests: Add Makefile support for TEST_GEN_PROGS_EXTENDED David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 15/21] vfio: selftests: Add vfio_pci_liveupdate_uapi_test David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 16/21] vfio: selftests: Initialize vfio_pci_device using a VFIO cdev FD David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 17/21] vfio: selftests: Add vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 18/21] vfio: selftests: Expose iommu_modes to tests David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 19/21] vfio: selftests: Expose low-level helper routines for setting up struct vfio_pci_device David Matlack
2025-12-28 4:03 ` Zhu Yanjun
2026-01-05 17:54 ` David Matlack
2026-01-06 0:07 ` Yanjun.Zhu
2026-01-06 0:19 ` David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 20/21] vfio: selftests: Verify that opening VFIO device fails during Live Update David Matlack
2025-11-26 19:36 ` [PATCH 21/21] vfio: selftests: Add continuous DMA to vfio_pci_liveupdate_kexec_test David Matlack
2025-11-28 4:56 ` [PATCH 00/21] vfio/pci: Base support to preserve a VFIO device file across Live Update Zhu Yanjun
2025-12-01 15:49 ` Zhu Yanjun [this message]
2025-12-01 17:10 ` David Matlack
2025-12-01 17:16 ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-12-01 17:32 ` David Matlack
2025-12-01 17:36 ` David Matlack
2025-12-01 17:44 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-01 21:45 ` Yanjun.Zhu
2025-12-01 21:48 ` David Matlack
2025-12-01 21:56 ` Yanjun.Zhu
2025-12-02 5:50 ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-12-01 21:59 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-12-02 14:10 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-12-02 21:29 ` David Matlack
2025-12-02 21:41 ` Pasha Tatashin
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