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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	kay.sievers@vrfy.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com, stern@rowland.harvard.edu,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [Devel] Re: [PATCHSET 3/4] sysfs: divorce sysfs from kobject and	driver model
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:03:54 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4706363A.9030807@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1d4vtn4jq.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> writes:
> 
>>>  Also fun is that the dev file implementation needs to be able to
>>>  report different major:minor numbers based on which mount of
>>>  sysfs we are dealing with.
>>
>>Um, no, that's not going to happen.  /dev/sda will _always_ have the
>>same major:minor number, as defined by the LSB spec.  You can not break
>>that at all.  So while you might not want to show all mounts
>>/sys/devices/block/sda/ the ones that you do, will all have the LSB
>>defined major:minor number assigned to it.
> 
> 
> Hmm.  If that is in the LSB it must come from
> Documentation/devices.txt  I'm not after changing the user
> visible major/minor assignments.
> 
> Let me see if a concrete example will help.  Suppose I have
> have a SAN with two disks:  disk-1 and disk-2.  I have
> two machines A and B.  On machine A I get the mapping:
> sda -> disk-1, sdb ->disk-2.  On machine B I wind up with
> a different probe order so I get the mapping: sda -> disk-2
> sdb ->disk-1.
> 
> To be very clear by sda I mean the block device with major 8 and
> minor 0, and by sdb I mean the block device with major 8 and minor
> 16.
> 
> So I decide I want an environment on machine B that looks just
> like the environment on machine A, so I can bring transfer over
> a running program or whatever.  So I run around looking at UUID
> labels and what not and I discover that the machine B knows disk-1 as
> sdb and that machine A knows disk-1 as sda.  So I want to say:
> /sys/devices/block/sdb show up in this other device namespace as
> /sys/devices/block/sda.

Imho environments to be migratable should have no direct access to the devices.
You can use any of stacked virtual filesystems to hide real
device from container.
You will have problems much bigger than this one otherwise
(imagine access to video, sound etc.)

Kirill


  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-05 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-20  8:05 [PATCHSET 3/4] sysfs: divorce sysfs from kobject and driver model Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 02/22] sysfs: separate out sysfs-kobject.h and fs/sysfs/kobject.c Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 05/22] sysfs: implement sysfs_find_child() Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 03/22] sysfs: make sysfs_new_dirent() normalize @mode and determine file type Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 06/22] sysfs: restructure addrm helpers Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 01/22] sysfs: make sysfs_root a pointer Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 04/22] sysfs: make SYSFS_COPY_NAME a flag Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 12/22] sysfs: drop kobj and attr from bin related symbols Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 07/22] sysfs: implement sysfs_dirent based remove interface sysfs_remove() Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 11/22] sysfs: implement sysfs_dirent based file interface Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 13/22] sysfs: implement sysfs_dirent based bin interface Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 14/22] sysfs: s/symlink/link/g Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 09/22] sysfs: rename internal function sysfs_add_file() Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 10/22] sysfs: drop kobj and attr from file related symbols Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 08/22] sysfs: implement sysfs_dirent based directory interface Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 17/22] sysfs: s/sysfs_rename_mutex/sysfs_op_mutex/ and protect all tree modifying ops Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 15/22] sysfs: implement sysfs_dirent based link interface Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 18/22] kobject: implement __kobject_set_name() Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 16/22] sysfs: convert group implementation to use sd-based interface Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 22/22] sysfs: move sysfs_assoc_lock into fs/sysfs/kobject.c and make it static Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 19/22] sysfs: implement sysfs_dirent based rename - sysfs_rename() Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 20/22] sysfs: kill now unused __sysfs_add_file() Tejun Heo
2007-09-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 21/22] sysfs: kill sysfs_hash_and_remove() Tejun Heo
2007-09-25 22:17 ` [PATCHSET 3/4] sysfs: divorce sysfs from kobject and driver model Greg KH
2007-09-27 11:35   ` Tejun Heo
2007-09-27 19:25     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-09-29 22:06       ` Tejun Heo
2007-10-05  6:23       ` Greg KH
2007-10-05 12:12         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-05 13:03           ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2007-10-05 13:24             ` [Devel] " Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-09 22:51           ` Greg KH
2007-10-10 13:16             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-10 20:44               ` Greg KH
2007-10-10 21:16                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-16 22:18               ` sukadev
2007-10-16 23:54                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-05 12:44         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-09 22:53           ` Greg KH
2007-10-05  6:18     ` Greg KH
2007-10-05  8:00       ` Tejun Heo
2007-10-09  9:29         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-10-09 22:26           ` Greg KH
2007-10-09 23:20             ` Roland Dreier
2007-10-09 23:28               ` Greg KH
2007-10-10  9:11                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-10-10  9:05             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-10-09 22:48         ` Greg KH
2007-10-10 15:38           ` Alan Stern
2007-10-10 16:16             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-10-10 17:24           ` Martin Bligh
2007-10-10 17:30             ` Greg KH
2007-10-10 18:26               ` Martin Bligh
2007-10-10 18:44                 ` Greg KH

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