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From: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: __LITTLE_ENDIAN vs. __LITTLE_ENDIAN_BITFIELD
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:10:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4706A842.9030507@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AECA61F9-0EF6-4883-9D37-004C00C57417@cam.ac.uk>

Anton Altaparmakov wrote:

>> ---LSB-- ---2SB-- ---3SB-- ---MSB-- [bytes] LITTLE_ENDIAN
>> L234567M L234567M L234567M L234567M  [bits] LITTLE_ENDIAN_BITFIELD
> 
> No it is not.  That makes no sense. 

Why not?  I honestly don't know what x86 does, but I would think that if I 
write a 32-bit value to a memory location, that when I examine that memory 
location, all 32 bits will be in order.

> The whole point of little endian is 
> that you store LSB, then 2SB, then 3SB, then MSB and then when the CPU 

You're talking about byte endian.  I'm talking about bit endian -- the order 
of bits within a byte.  Software cannot know what the bit endian is, but 
external devices that have memory-mapped registers can know.

> reads this as a 32-bit word it rotates them all around so that in the 
> CPU register you have:
> 
> MSB_3SB_2SB_LSB
> M765432L_M765432L_M765432L_M765432L
> 
> That is what little endian means and that is how shift operations can 
> work fine on the CPU.

The CPU shift operation, yes.  I'm talking about shift operations on external 
memory-mapped devices.

-- 
Timur Tabi
Linux Kernel Developer @ Freescale

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-05 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-05 18:27 __LITTLE_ENDIAN vs. __LITTLE_ENDIAN_BITFIELD Timur Tabi
2007-10-05 18:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-05 19:35   ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-05 19:43     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-05 19:47       ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-05 20:04         ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-05 20:07           ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-05 20:34             ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-10-05 20:37               ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-05 23:27                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-05 21:17             ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-05 21:06     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-10-05 21:10       ` Timur Tabi [this message]
2007-10-05 21:29         ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-05 21:32           ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-05 23:17             ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-09 17:46         ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-10-09 17:56           ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-09 18:34             ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-10-09 18:50             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-10-09 18:57               ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-09 19:37                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-10-09 19:44                   ` Timur Tabi
2007-10-09 22:11                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-10-09 19:11               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-09 19:39                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-10-09 21:40                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-09 22:34                     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-10-10 12:05                       ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)

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