From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: Alistair John Strachan <alistair@devzero.co.uk>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Oleg Verych <olecom@flower.upol.cz>,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
Medve Emilian-EMMEDVE1 <Emilian.Medve@freescale.com>,
Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage"
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:10:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47096752.2070107@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200710072340.40828.alistair@devzero.co.uk>
On 10/08/2007 12:40 AM, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
> Splash screens are clearly cosmetic, and it's kind of shameful (imo) that
> important messages explaining real problems are obscured from view by
> functionless splash screens.
They're not functionless. You (and I) might not care for the function, but
their function is providing a "slick" bootup. That's why so many if not
basically all distributions of recent origin use them. Go ask Ubuntu for
example.
> Personally, I think muddying the vga colour argument with splash screen stuff
> is bogus, they're very functionally separable ideas. A coloured oops seems to
> be a good way of telling novice users what information is relevant to their
> bug report.
But when they're hidden by a splash screen, you don't see them any better
when they're red than when they're white. Splash screens were not mentioned
as any sort of alternative, their prevalence was mentioned as indication
that VGA console is only ever getting less important.
I find Alan's suggestion to provide the functionality the same way you'd
provide for translated kernel messages (seeing as how there also are people
that want those) much more sensible.
Rene.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-07 23:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710062005190.5969@fbirervta.pbzchgretzou.qr>
2007-10-06 19:13 ` [PATCH 1/2] Colored kernel output (run2) Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-08 13:28 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-10-06 19:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Jan Engelhardt
[not found] ` <20071006195105.GE22435@flower.upol.cz>
[not found] ` <20071006194820.GA30579@elte.hu>
2007-10-06 21:03 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Oleg Verych
2007-10-06 21:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-06 21:55 ` About summary in the subject (Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)) Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 6:07 ` [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2) Ingo Molnar
2007-10-07 11:10 ` "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage" Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 14:15 ` NAK nettiquete (was Re: "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-07 15:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-07 15:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 16:23 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-07 23:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 15:46 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-07 18:11 ` NAK nettiquete (was " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-10-07 16:12 ` "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage" Ingo Molnar
2007-10-07 18:47 ` Rene Herman
2007-10-07 18:58 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 19:27 ` Rene Herman
2007-10-07 20:02 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 19:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-10-07 19:47 ` Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 21:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-07 21:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-12 13:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-08 3:23 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-10-08 19:27 ` initramfs: coloring in userspace, "[PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 19:53 ` "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage" Rene Herman
2007-10-07 19:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 20:00 ` Rene Herman
2007-10-07 20:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 20:06 ` Rene Herman
2007-10-07 20:50 ` tty UI (Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)) Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 20:43 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 22:18 ` syntax highlighting, emacs ([PATCH " Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 22:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-08 0:29 ` Ken Moffat
2007-10-08 3:29 ` "Re: [PATCH 0/2] Colored kernel output (run2)" + "`Subject:' usage" Willy Tarreau
2007-10-07 21:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-07 23:02 ` Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 23:01 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-07 23:33 ` Oleg Verych
2007-10-07 22:40 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-10-07 23:10 ` Rene Herman [this message]
2007-10-07 23:20 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-10-07 23:33 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-10-07 23:15 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-07 16:37 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-12 13:16 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-12 14:57 ` Oleg Verych
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