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From: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vgoyal@in.ibm.com,
	k-miyoshi@cb.jp.nec.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>, Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kdb@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] add new notifier function
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:38:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <470B3008.9040003@ah.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1641llnqa.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com> writes:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> These patches add new notifier function and implement it to panic_notifier_list.
>> We used the hardcoded notifier chain so far, but it was not flexible. New
>> notifier is very flexible, because user can change a list of order by debugfs.
> 
> How is the lack of flexibility a problem?
> Specifics please.

Please read this again.
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/797220?do=post_view_threaded#797220

Keith Owen said,

> My stance is that _all_ the RAS tools (kdb, kgdb, nlkd, netdump, lkcd,
> crash, kdump etc.) should be using a common interface that safely puts
> the entire system in a stopped state and saves the state of each cpu.
> Then each tool can do what it likes, instead of every RAS tool doing
> its own thing and they all conflict with each other, which is why this
> thread started.
> 
> It is not the kernel's job to decide which RAS tool runs first, second
> etc., it is the user's decision to set that policy. Different sites
> will want different orders, some will say "go straight to kdump", other
> sites will want to invoke a debugger first. Sites must be able to
> define that policy, but we hard code the policy into the kernel. 

I agreed with him and I made new notifier function.

> 
> My impression is that the purpose of this patchset is to build
> infrastructure to sort out a conflict between kdb and the kexec code,
> which it does not do, and it can not do if it does not own up to
> it's real purpose.

My motivation does not change. But I don't think kdump have to use notifer.
I want to resolve this adopting the way which satisfy all users.

Thanks,

Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>

      reply	other threads:[~2007-10-09  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-04 11:38 [PATCH 0/2] add new notifier function Takenori Nagano
2007-10-05  4:33 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-10-05  5:43   ` Takenori Nagano
2007-10-05 13:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-09  7:38   ` Takenori Nagano [this message]

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