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From: Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
To: Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	linux-dvb-maintainer@linuxtv.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	video4linux-list@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:22:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <470E23A0.5050500@aurel32.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9def9db0710102331h68e1d9b0rf3095bd9e261ec21@mail.gmail.com>

Markus Rechberger a écrit :
> On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> wrote:
>> Markus Rechberger a écrit :
>>> On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>>> As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people,
>>>> since at least it supports the limited set of hardware on its own.
>>> it does not since it's broken and feature limited. On the other side
>> I have a device which works perfectly with it if you add the vendor and
>> product ID to the list. I don't really call that broken. And it doesn't
>> need a firmware.
>>
> 
> Aurelien,
> 
> the device you're using is around 2 years old. You're one of the lucky
> ones, I have tonns of support mails in my mail account from people who
> own almost a similar device but with different videodecoders which are
> not fully supported in the kernel or which worked and got broken
> during the time.
> It took me around 4 hours to debug such an issue last years remotly
> with an enduser (which includes that noone cared to ask me if I'm fine
> with such an update, neither did someone ask people who own such
> devices that they should test the changes).
> Please also take other devices and upcoming devices into account,
> since i'm willing to spend that time and since I'm in contact with
> various companies who provide several components of those devices.
> 

I agree I am lucky, but the fact is that the in-kernel driver supports
*some* devices, and *works* correctly for them. On the other side, your
driver supports more devices, but it is and *out-of-tree* driver.

Please either work to get your change merged, or stop complaining about
changes done to the in-kernel driver.

Moreover if you get a closer look at v4l-dvb git, you will see that the
changes proposed by Mauro are not em28xx specific, and is actually the
same change done on a lot of of v4l/dvb drivers.

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-11 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-10 21:50 [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24 Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-10-10 23:00 ` [v4l-dvb-maintainer] " Markus Rechberger
2007-10-10 23:24   ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-10 23:35     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-11  4:59       ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-11  9:50         ` Aidan Thornton
2007-10-11 10:42           ` Pádraig Brady
2007-10-11 11:39             ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-10 23:36   ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-11  5:09     ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-11  5:32       ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-11  5:50         ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-11  7:11       ` Dave Jones
2007-10-14 10:40     ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-14 11:12       ` Hans Verkuil
2007-10-14 11:28         ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-14 20:49       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-10-10 23:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-11  4:50     ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-11  6:08       ` Aurelien Jarno
2007-10-11  6:31         ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-11  9:33           ` Marcel Siegert
2007-10-11 10:20             ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-11 12:54               ` Marcel Siegert
2007-10-11 13:01                 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-10-11 13:22           ` Aurelien Jarno [this message]

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