From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@ums.usu.ru>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Henrik Carlqvist <hc1@poolhem.se>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: tristate and bool not enogh for Kconfig anymore
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:27:51 +0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <471C8937.9010007@ums.usu.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071022105727.GA22181@infradead.org>
Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 04:32:19PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
>
>>> That's wrong. You can load firmware from the initramfs even if the
>>> driver is built in. There is no valid reason why a driver shouldn't
>>> be allowed to be built in.
>>>
>> Could you please explain how this is supposed to work?
>>
>> As far as I understand, the kernel initializes all built-in drivers, and
>> only then starts /init in initramfs (which is then supposed to start
>> udevd and load firmware) - but that's too late.
>>
>
> populate_rootfs is a rootfs_initcall which happens before all the driver
> initcalls.
>
Correct, but irrelevant. The firmware indeed gets unpacked to rootfs
before all driver initcalls, but stays as a dead weight during them,
because udev (started by /init, which happens in init_post() called by
kernel_init() after all initcalls) is needed to load this firmware.
Yes, there is a call to usermodehelper_init() before the initcalls in
do_basic_setup(), this does mean that firmware can be loaded by means of
the old and obsolete /sbin/hotplug mechanism, but who has /sbin/hotplug now?
--
Alexander E. Patrakov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-22 11:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-20 11:57 [PATCH] Kconfig bug Nick Warne
2007-10-20 12:42 ` tristate and bool not enogh for Kconfig anymore Henrik Carlqvist
2007-10-20 19:17 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-20 21:56 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-21 4:47 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-21 10:24 ` Henrik Carlqvist
2007-10-21 16:45 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-21 20:42 ` Henrik Carlqvist
2007-10-21 21:03 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-22 0:47 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-22 3:14 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-22 4:42 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-27 23:37 ` Roman Zippel
2007-10-22 10:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-10-22 10:32 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2007-10-22 10:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-10-22 11:27 ` Alexander E. Patrakov [this message]
2007-10-22 12:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-10-22 13:18 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2007-10-22 11:46 ` Helge Hafting
2007-10-22 21:50 ` Henrik Carlqvist
2007-10-27 12:26 ` [PATCH] Kconfig bug Nick Warne
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