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From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@ums.usu.ru>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Henrik Carlqvist <hc1@poolhem.se>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: tristate and bool not enogh for Kconfig anymore
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:18:00 +0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <471CA308.80401@ums.usu.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071022125334.GA10563@infradead.org>

Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 05:27:51PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
>   
>> Yes, there is a call to usermodehelper_init() before the initcalls in 
>> do_basic_setup(), this does mean that firmware can be loaded by means of 
>> the old and obsolete /sbin/hotplug mechanism, but who has /sbin/hotplug now?
>>     
>
> I do.  We're not going to cripple the kernel just because you use <censored> userspace.
>
>   
AFAIK, there were good reasons (effect similar to fork bomb on a system 
with large number of, e.g., SCSI disks - Greg KH obviously knows more 
details) to drop /sbin/hotplug from all distributions in favour of udev. 
Anyway, the "hotplug" package is no longer supported by its author. So 
there is no option to use a non-<censored> from your viewpoint but still 
supported-upstream userspace.

As already mentioned in a different subthread, the solution is to wait 
for the firmware in the background, so that the built-in case also 
starts working. Drivers that don't do this (e.g. qla2xxx) must be fixed, 
but for now, IMHO, it does make sense to mark them as non-working in the 
non-modular case.

-- 
Alexander E. Patrakov

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-22 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-20 11:57 [PATCH] Kconfig bug Nick Warne
2007-10-20 12:42 ` tristate and bool not enogh for Kconfig anymore Henrik Carlqvist
2007-10-20 19:17   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-20 21:56     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-21  4:47     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-21 10:24       ` Henrik Carlqvist
2007-10-21 16:45         ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-21 20:42           ` Henrik Carlqvist
2007-10-21 21:03           ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-10-22  0:47             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-22  3:14               ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-22  4:42                 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-27 23:37                 ` Roman Zippel
2007-10-22 10:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-10-22 10:32     ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2007-10-22 10:57       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-10-22 11:27         ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2007-10-22 12:53           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-10-22 13:18             ` Alexander E. Patrakov [this message]
2007-10-22 11:46   ` Helge Hafting
2007-10-22 21:50     ` Henrik Carlqvist
2007-10-27 12:26 ` [PATCH] Kconfig bug Nick Warne

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