From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757277AbXJYRMT (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:12:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752982AbXJYRMJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:12:09 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:59418 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752846AbXJYRMH (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:12:07 -0400 Message-ID: <4720CD80.5030106@zytor.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:08:16 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11/20070727) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andi Kleen CC: "Eric W. Biederman" , Thomas Gleixner , "Huang, Ying" , Andrew Morton , Ingo Molnar , Chandramouli Narayanan , LKML , Arjan van de Ven Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3 -v4] x86_64 EFI runtime service support: EFI basic runtime service support References: <1193295473.23935.202.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com> <200710251906.10210.ak@novell.com> In-Reply-To: <200710251906.10210.ak@novell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Andi Kleen wrote: >> Especially for accessing the real time clock that has a well >> defined hardware interface going through efi an additional >> software emulation layer looks like asking for trouble. > > I agree it's pointless for the hardware clock, but EFI > also offers services to write some data to the CMOS RAM > which could be very useful to save oops data over reboot. > I don't think this can be done safely otherwise > without BIOS cooperation. > The ability to scurry away even a small amount of data without relying on the disk system is highly desirable. Think next-boot type information. -hpa