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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3 -v4] x86_64 EFI runtime service support: EFI basic
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Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>
>> Well, the original motivation for all of this was to enable implementation of a
>> EFI framebuffer (UGA/GOP).  Now, you can say what you want about EFI (and I
>> definitely have my opinion on it), but that seems legitimate to me.
> 
> To be very clear.  I think we need the EFI boot parameters but
> we certainly don't runtime services to implement an EFI framebuffer.
> 

Ying claimed that GOP requires EFI runtime services.  Is that not true?

	-hpa