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From: Glauber de Oliveira Costa <gcosta@redhat.com>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, jeremy@goop.org, --cc@redhat.com,
	avi@quramnet.com, kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Glauber de Oliveira Costa <glauber@t60.localdomain>,
	Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>, Garrett Smith <garrett@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] raise tsc clocksource rating
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:02:18 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47271D4A.8030707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1193699638.9793.97.camel@bodhitayantram.eng.vmware.com>

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Zachary Amsden escreveu:
> On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 00:02 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> * Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Not every guest support paravirt, but for correctness, all guests 
>>> require TSC, which must be exposed all the way up to userspace, no 
>>> matter what the efficiency or accuracy may be.
>> but if there's a perfect TSC available (there is such hardware) then the 
>> TSC _is_ the best clocksource. Paravirt now turns it off unconditionally 
>> in essence.
> 
> No, if no paravirt clocksource is detected, nothing can override the
> perfect TSC hardware clocksource rating of 400.  And if a paravirt
> clocksource is detected, it is always better than TSC.

Why always? tsc is the best possible alternative the _platform_ can
provide. So the paravirt clocksource will be at best, as good as tsc.
And if it is the case: why bother with communication mechanisms of all
kinds, calculations, etc, if we can just read the tsc?

Noting again: If the tsc does not arrive accurate to the guest, it will
fail the tsc clocksource tests. So it will be rated zero anyway



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-30 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-29 23:10 [PATCH] raise tsc clocksource rating Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-29 22:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-10-29 22:36   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30  1:26   ` john stultz
2007-10-30  2:39   ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-30  7:37     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 10:52       ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-30 12:13       ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-29 22:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 22:45   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:48   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 22:52     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 23:17         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 23:21           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 23:33             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-30  0:45             ` Ian Pratt
2007-10-30  7:19               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 22:55     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 23:02       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 23:13         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 23:17           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 12:02           ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa [this message]
2007-10-30 17:58             ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 23:24         ` Dan Hecht
2007-10-30  4:24           ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-10-30  7:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 11:59       ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-30  0:17 ` H. Peter Anvin

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