From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:51:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4729E7E4.8070208@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071101144307.GA29566@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> while checking recent commits to the kernel core i took a look at the
> PID namespaces implementation, and it has a fatal flaw: it breaks
> futexes and various libraries (and other stuff) that use PIDs as the
> means of identifying tasks, by not providing any means of global
> identification that works across PID namespaces. (PIDs _are_ a very
> convenient and global way of identifying contexts.)
>
> i asked Ulrich about this and it turns out he has warned about this
> early on:
>
> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-question%3A-pid-space-semantics.-p3409990.html
>
> but this problem is still present in the code, and it has been recently
> committed into mainline via:
>
> commit 30e49c263e36341b60b735cbef5ca37912549264
> Author: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
> Date: Thu Oct 18 23:40:10 2007 -0700
>
> pid namespaces: allow cloning of new namespace
>
> without these problems having been resolved. A full-scale revert is
> probably too intrusive, but at minimum we need to turn off user-space
> access to this feature via this simple patch. Until this issue is
> resolved properly the new PID namespace code needs to be turned off.
> Letting this into 2.6.24 would be a disaster.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> ---
> kernel/fork.c | 8 ++++++++
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>
> Index: v/kernel/fork.c
> ===================================================================
> --- v.orig/kernel/fork.c
> +++ v/kernel/fork.c
> @@ -1420,6 +1420,14 @@ long do_fork(unsigned long clone_flags,
> int trace = 0;
> long nr;
>
> + /*
> + * PID namespaces are broken at the moment: they do not allow
> + * certain PID based syscalls (such as futexes) to be used
> + * across namespaces. This is broken and must not be allowed,
> + * so we keep this feature turned off until it's properly fixed.
> + */
> + clone_flags &= ~CLONE_NEWPID;
> +
Well, emm. Eric already tried to solve this issue in the similar way
(http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/10/26/414), but I have recently sent a
more generic patch set. It turns all the namespaces off with the
config options, but Andrew said to wait until the next -mm tree to
rework the set.
With this set we'll be able to mark pid namespaces as EXPERIMENTAL
or even BROKEN, so nobody will be able to crate them. So can we, please,
keep things as they are for now - the appropriate fix will be ready
soon.
Thanks,
Pavel
> if (unlikely(current->ptrace)) {
> trace = fork_traceflag (clone_flags);
> if (trace)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-01 14:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-01 14:43 [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround Ingo Molnar
2007-11-01 14:51 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2007-11-01 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-01 15:06 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-01 15:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-01 15:30 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-01 14:56 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-01 15:05 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-02 0:21 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-02 7:55 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-02 8:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-02 8:14 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-02 14:05 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-02 14:21 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-02 15:34 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-02 15:58 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-02 21:39 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-03 4:34 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-06 7:49 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-11-03 20:01 ` sukadev
2007-11-04 7:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-02 17:30 ` Dave Hansen
2007-11-02 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-03 4:02 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-11-03 20:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-03 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-03 23:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-04 0:21 ` david
2007-11-04 10:38 ` [patch] PID namespaces Ingo Molnar
2007-11-04 20:12 ` Dave Hansen
2007-11-05 14:47 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-20 22:53 ` Futexes and network filesystems Er ic W. Biederman
2007-11-21 6:16 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-21 6:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-11-01 16:12 ` [patch] PID namespace design bug, workaround Dave Hansen
2007-11-01 14:53 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-01 15:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-01 18:57 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-01 19:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-02 0:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-11-01 15:02 ` Pavel Emelyanov
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