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From: "Alan D. Brunelle" <Alan.Brunelle@hp.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] Give kjournald a IOPRIO_CLASS_RT io priority
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:43:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <473B4FE5.7000601@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071114095151.43c5e576@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:18:05 +0100
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
>   
>> * Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> ooh, more performance testing.  Thanks
>>>
>>>       
>>>>     * The overwriter task (on an 8GiB file), average over 10 runs:
>>>>           o 2.6.24 - 300.88226 seconds
>>>>           o 2.6.24 + Arjan's patch - 403.85505 seconds
>>>>
>>>>     * The read-a-different-kernel-tree task, average over 10 runs:
>>>>           o 2.6.24 - 46.8145945549 seconds
>>>>           o 2.6.24 + Arjan's patch - 39.6430601119 seconds
>>>>
>>>>     * The large-linear-read task (on an 8GiB file), average over
>>>> 10 runs: o 2.6.24 - 290.32522 seconds
>>>>           o 2.6.24 + Arjan's patch - 386.34860 seconds
>>>>         
>>> These are *large* differences, making this a very signifcant
>>> patch. Much care is needed now.
>>>       
>> and the numbers suggest it's mostly a severe performance regression. 
>> That's not what i have expected - ho hum. Apologies for my earlier 
>> "please merge it already!" whining.
>>     
>
> that's.. not automatic; it depends on what the right thing is :-(
> What for sure changes is that who gets to do IO changes. Some of the
> tests we ran internally (we didn't publish yet because we saw REALLY
> large variations for most of them even without any patch) show for
> example that "dbench" got slower. But.. dbench gets slower when things
> get more fair, and faster when things get unfair. What conclusion you
> draw out of that is a whole different matter and depends on exactly
> what the test is doing, and what is the right thing for the OS to do in
> terms of who gets to do the IO.
>
> THis makes the patch more tricky than the one line change suggests, and
> this is also why I haven't published a ton of data yet; it's hard to
> get useful tests for this (and the variation of the 2.6.23+ kernels
> makes it even harder to do anything meaningful ;-( )
>
>
>   
I'd also like to point out here that the run-to-run deviation was indeed 
quite large for both the unpatched- and patched-kernels, I'll report on 
that information with the next set of results...

Alan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-14 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-15 17:46 [patch] Give kjournald a IOPRIO_CLASS_RT io priority Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-15 18:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-15 19:28   ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-22  9:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22  9:23       ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-22  9:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22  9:40         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-22  9:49           ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-15 20:13   ` Rik van Riel
2007-10-15 21:12     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <473B18BA.5000709@hp.com>
2007-11-14 17:14         ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 17:18           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 17:51             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-14 18:55               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 19:43               ` Alan D. Brunelle [this message]
2007-11-14 19:24           ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-14 19:50             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-11-14 19:56             ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 16:25           ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 16:40             ` Alan D. Brunelle
2007-11-16 18:35             ` Ray Lee
2007-11-16 18:39               ` Alan D. Brunelle
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-02  3:00 [PATCH] " Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02  4:56 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02  6:27   ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02  6:55     ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02  7:45       ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02  8:03         ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02  8:22           ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02  8:43             ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02  8:46               ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 12:04           ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 13:16             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:46               ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 14:33                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-04 14:12                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-04 17:14                     ` Joseph Fannin
2008-10-04 21:27                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-02 13:12       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 20:24         ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03  4:01           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03  4:23             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03  4:40               ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03  4:43                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03  4:50                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03  5:00                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03  5:24                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03 17:21                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-09  3:00                         ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-09  3:38                           ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03  4:45                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02  6:57   ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-02  7:55     ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02  9:33       ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-02  9:45         ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 13:14           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:27             ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 13:36               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 13:47                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 14:26                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 16:42                     ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 19:04           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 19:22             ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-02 21:37               ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 23:58                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-03  0:06                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-03  0:20                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-02 13:05   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-02 17:11     ` Jens Axboe
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     [not found] ` <biosl-6bq-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <biqkw-aK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <birgx-1pQ-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <bisPe-3xx-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <bisYW-3HQ-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-10-02 15:32           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-10-02 23:34             ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-04  7:45               ` Aaron Carroll
2008-10-06  3:18                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-07 18:06                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-10-07 22:22                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-09  8:48                       ` Jens Axboe

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