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From: john cooper <john.cooper@third-harmonic.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	john cooper <john.cooper@third-harmonic.com>
Subject: Re: MIPS RT debug support
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:55:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <473CF8A5.9030101@third-harmonic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0711151956430.30058@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Tim Bird wrote:
> 
>> john cooper wrote:
>>> The more daunting problem stems from limitations in the MIPS
>>> ABI which makes the latency trace support problematic.
>>> Rather than rehash the issue:
>>>
>>>     http://lists.linuxcoding.com/kernel/2005-q4/msg10163.html
>>>
>>> Until we have a usable instrumentation solution in place,
>>> characterization, debug, and support of PREEMPT_RT for MIPS
>>> is going to be a challenge.
>> Agreed.  I have been using KFT (Kernel Function Trace)
>> on MIPS, and it has decent support for function traceback
>> reporting, but it's not currently integrated with latency-trace
>> at all.   We should discuss if this could possibly be
>> used to debug RT-preempt.  It is much heavier weight than
>> the mcount stuff, but uses similar (but not identical)
>> gcc profiling instrumentation.  I'm not sure if the
>> two can be turned on together, or how hard it would
>> be to move latency-trace onto -finstrument_functions.
> 
> I'm not familiar with the KFT but I'm sure it would be easy to port
> latency_trace to it. Really, all the mcount does is make a wrapper to pass
> to the trace calls.

It isn't an issue of getting a hook into the FUNCTION_PROLOGUE
(mcount() here) but rather of emulating the CALLER_ADDR[0123]
defs which map onto the gcc internal __builtin_return_address().
Doing so using the affectionately dubbed "Three Stooges Algorithm"
called out in the MIPS ABI is both complex and nondeterministic.

The entry FUNCTION_PROLOGUE hook provides a means to log the path
traveled thus far.  __builtin_return_address() gives a way to
snapshot a stub of the stack invocation. Together they provide
somewhat complimentary but useful debug information.

We could log the stack invocation progress in the latency
instrumentation itself by noting a new invocation in the
FUNCTION_PROLOGUE and unwind of the same in the currently
unused FUNCTION_EPILOGUE hook.  So we're just shadowing the
actual runtime stack in effect with a data structure which
can be traversed far more easily.

-john

-- 
john.cooper@third-harmonic.com

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-16  1:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-15  0:15 rt-preempt: problem compiling rt-preempt 2.6.23.1-rt11 on MIPS Tim Bird
2007-11-15  0:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-15  1:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-11-15  1:20     ` Tim Bird
2007-11-15  1:27       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-11-15  2:24   ` john cooper
2007-11-15 23:31     ` MIPS RT debug support Tim Bird
2007-11-16  1:00       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-11-16  1:55         ` john cooper [this message]
2007-11-16  2:25           ` Steven Rostedt
2007-11-16 11:56             ` john cooper

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