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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
	xfs-masters@oss.sgi.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: freeze vs freezer
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:44:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <474B1404.8020800@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200711240047.21624.rjw@sisk.pl>

Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, 22 of November 2007, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>   
>> It seems that a process blocked in a write to an xfs filesystem due to
>> xfs_freeze cannot be frozen by the freezer.
>>     
>
> The freezer doesn't handle tasks in TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE and I don't know how
> to make it handle them without at least partially defeating its purpose.
>   

Well, I guess the question is whether an xfs-frozen writer really needs
to be UNINTERRUPTIBLE from the freezer's perspective (clearly it does
from usermode's perspective - filesystem writes just don't return EINTR).

>From a quick poke around, it looks to me like freezing is actually
implemented in the VFS layer rather than in XFS itself: is that right? 
Could vfs_check_frozen() be changed to something that is freezer-compatible?

>> I see this if I suspend my laptop while doing something xfs-filesystem
>> intensive, like a kernel build.  My suspend scripts freeze the XFS
>> filesystem (as Dave said I should), which presumably blocks some writer,
>> and then the freezer times out and fails to complete.
>>
>> Here's part of the process dump the freezer does when it times out:
>>
>> cc1           D 00000000     0 18138  18137
>>        dd5f1e24 00200082 00000002 00000000 ecdeeb00 ecdeec64 c200f280 00000001 
>>        009c09a0 dd5f1e0c dd5f1e0c 0000000f 00000000 00000000 00000000 dd5f1e74 
>>        c7beb480 dd5f1e88 dd5f1ea8 c0228d97 e8889540 dd5f1e38 c015b75d dd5f1e44 
>> Call Trace:
>>  [<c0228d97>] xfs_write+0xf4/0x6d9
>>  [<c0226038>] xfs_file_aio_write+0x53/0x5b
>>  [<c0171c15>] do_sync_write+0xae/0xec
>>  [<c0172343>] vfs_write+0xa4/0x120
>>  [<c01728d7>] sys_write+0x3b/0x60
>>  [<c0106fae>] sysenter_past_esp+0x6b/0xa1
>>  =======================
>>
>>
>> I haven't looked at how to fix this yet.  I only just worked out why I
>> was getting suspend failures.
>>     
>
> Well, you can add freezer_do_not_count()/freezer_count() annotations to
> xfs_write() (and whatever else is blocked as a result of the XFS being frozen).
>   

What would be the implications of that?  Would that just prevent
freezing while there's something blocked there?

> Generally, that would be risky without the freezing of XFS, however, because it
> might leak us filesystem data to a storage device after creating a hibernation
> image which would result in the filesystem corruption after the resume.
>
> Still, if you only suspend to RAM, that should be safe.
>   

I specifically added it because I was getting data loss due to crashes
during suspend/resume problems.  It's been pretty stable lately, but I
may as well remove the xfs_freeze from my suspend scripts if this is the
solution.

I think the broader issue is that there's no reason in principle why
something blocked due to xfs-freezing (or vfs freezing) should prevent
the freezer from completing.

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-26 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-22  3:54 freeze vs freezer Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-23 23:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-26 18:44   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-11-26 21:20     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-26 21:17   ` David Chinner
2007-11-26 21:53     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-27  5:38       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-11-27 17:40         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-27 20:33           ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-27 23:01             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-27 22:49               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-27 23:14                 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-27 23:32                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-02 16:02             ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-02 21:30               ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-02 22:04                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-01-03  9:19                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-03  9:47                     ` Oliver Neukum
2008-01-03  9:52                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-03 11:15                         ` Oliver Neukum
2008-01-03 22:06                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-04 20:54                             ` Oliver Neukum
2008-01-05  1:38                               ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-05 21:18                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-05 23:01                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-01-03 22:31                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-23  7:16             ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-23 14:00               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-06-24  8:08                 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-06-26 15:09                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-29 22:12                     ` [xfs-masters] " Dave Chinner
2008-06-29 23:22                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-30  6:11                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-06-30 20:34                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-03 19:43                             ` Eric Sandeen
2008-06-30  6:29                         ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30  6:37                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 12:33                             ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30 21:00                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-30 22:21                                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-06-30 22:38                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-01  6:38                                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-01 14:35                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-01 15:05                                         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-01 15:17                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-01 21:15                                           ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-01 21:46                                             ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-01 21:12                                         ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-01 21:21                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-07-01  8:59                             ` Pavel Machek

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