From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH x86/mm 6/6] x86-64 ia32 ptrace get/putreg32 current task
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:16:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <474F1027.2020801@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0711291057320.8458@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Andi, do you happen to remember the details on this?
-hpa
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>>> It is advantageous for user space to use the register the kernel typically
>>>> won't, in order to speed up system call entry/exit.
>>> but I'm not seeing the reason for that one. Care to comment more? (Yes,
>>> there is often a latency from segment reload to use, but the reload latency
>>> for system call exit *should* be entirely covered by the cost of doing the
>>> system call return itself, no?)
>> I do seem to recall that some processor implementations can load a NULL
>> segment faster than a non-NULL segment. This was significant enough that we
>> wanted to use %fs in x86-64 userspace, as opposed to the original ABI which
>> used %gs both in userspace and in the kernel.
>
> Ahh, I think you may be right for some CPUs. The zero selector is indeed
> potentially faster to load, since it doesn't have to even bother looking
> at the GDT/LDT.
>
> That said, I doubt it's very noticeable. I just ran tests on both an old
> P4 and on a more modern Core 2 machine, and for both of those the
> performance was identical between loading a NUL selector and loading it
> with a non-zero one.
>
> But I could well imagine that it matters a few cycles on other CPU's. But
> from my testing, it definitely isn't noticeable, and I think the
> maintenance advantage of using the same segment setup would more than make
> up for the fact that maybe some odd CPU can see a difference.
>
> Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-29 19:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-29 0:38 [PATCH x86/mm 1/6] x86-64 ia32 ptrace pt_regs cleanup Roland McGrath
2007-11-29 0:40 ` [PATCH x86/mm 2/6] x86-64 ptrace whitespace Roland McGrath
2007-11-29 0:40 ` [PATCH x86/mm 3/6] x86-32 " Roland McGrath
2007-11-29 0:41 ` [PATCH x86/mm 4/6] x86-64 ptrace get/putreg current task Roland McGrath
2007-11-29 17:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-11-29 0:42 ` [PATCH x86/mm 5/6] x86-32 " Roland McGrath
2007-11-29 0:42 ` [PATCH x86/mm 6/6] x86-64 ia32 ptrace get/putreg32 " Roland McGrath
2007-11-29 17:34 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-29 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-29 18:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-29 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-29 18:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-29 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-29 19:16 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-11-29 19:27 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-29 19:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-29 20:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-01 23:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-11-29 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-29 20:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-11-29 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-29 18:17 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-29 18:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-29 22:25 ` Roland McGrath
2007-11-29 22:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-29 22:21 ` Roland McGrath
2007-11-29 23:00 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-29 10:39 ` [PATCH x86/mm 1/6] x86-64 ia32 ptrace pt_regs cleanup Ingo Molnar
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