From: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@gmail.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Need lockdep help
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:14:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4755B508.9020806@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0712041424270.13516-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
Alan Stern wrote, On 12/04/2007 08:28 PM:
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
...
> But you have to consider hypothetical kernel bugs. That's exactly what
> lockdep is for -- to warn you about possible deadlocks that could be
> caused by bugs.
>
> As a simple example, if thread #1 does "lock(A); lock(B)" and thread
> #2 does "lock(B); lock(A)" then there's a possible bug. Lockdep should
> warn about you, and it does -- even if those two threads can never run
> at the same time.
>
> If lockdep warned about deadlocks only when they actually happened, it
> wouldn't be nearly so useful.
Sure! I probably missed your point... Lockdep always names reported locks,
so I meant 'hypothetical' only trying to explain lockdep with some other,
unknown or unnamed bugs.
So, depending on the code, above example with A & B could be a real bug
(even if very improbable but logically justified) or a false alarm (eg.
when we know both threads could never work at the same).
Jarek P.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-04 20:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-02 19:45 Need lockdep help Alan Stern
2007-12-02 20:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-02 20:08 ` Alan Stern
2007-12-03 10:36 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-12-03 15:08 ` Alan Stern
2007-12-03 23:25 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-12-04 15:17 ` Alan Stern
2007-12-04 19:02 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-12-04 19:28 ` Alan Stern
2007-12-04 20:14 ` Jarek Poplawski [this message]
2007-12-04 21:00 ` Ingo Molnar
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