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From: John Reiser <jreiser@BitWagon.com>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, security@kernel.org
Subject: Re: /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:45:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4762EB63.8070100@BitWagon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071214201305.GL19691@waste.org>

Matt Mackall wrote:
> Yes, we use uninitialized data. But it's not a leak in any useful
> sense. To the extent the previous data is secret, this actually
> improves our entropy.
> 
> It's getting folded into the random number pool, where it will be
> impossible to recover it unless you already know what was in the
> pool.  And if you know what's in the pool, you've already broken into
> the kernel.

The combination of capturing data from other users, plus seeding
the pool with your own data, just might be powerful enough to help
steal secrets, sometime in the next five years, from data that is
recorded today.

> But I'm sympathetic to making Valgrind happy.  ...

> [The code in John's patch is] hideous.  How about a memset instead ...

> And [John's] change is broken..   We have to add precisely the
> number of bytes returned by extract_entropy to keep the books
> balanced.

Matt is correct.  The rolled-up result follows.

Signed off by: jreiser@BitWagon.com

--- ./drivers/char/random.c.orig	2007-12-14 11:06:03.000000000 -0800
+++ ./drivers/char/random.c	2007-12-14 12:27:23.000000000 -0800
@@ -708,6 +708,8 @@

 		bytes=extract_entropy(r->pull, tmp, bytes,
 				      random_read_wakeup_thresh / 8, rsvd);
+		/* clear uninitialized bytes at the end to make valgrind happy */
+		memset((char *)tmp + bytes, 0, -bytes & 3);
 		add_entropy_words(r, tmp, (bytes + 3) / 4);
 		credit_entropy_store(r, bytes*8);
 	}
-- 
John Reiser, jreiser@BitWagon.com


  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-14 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-14 19:34 /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data John Reiser
2007-12-14 20:13 ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-14 20:45   ` John Reiser [this message]
2007-12-14 23:23     ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-15  0:30       ` John Reiser
2007-12-15  4:32         ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-17 16:30           ` John Reiser
2007-12-17 17:36             ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-18  0:52               ` Andy Lutomirski
2007-12-18  3:05                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-18  3:13                   ` David Newall
2007-12-18  3:46                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-18  4:09                       ` David Newall
2007-12-18  4:23                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-19 22:43                           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-12-19 22:40                         ` Bill Davidsen
2007-12-20  4:18                       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2007-12-20 20:17                         ` Phillip Susi
2007-12-21 16:10                           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2007-12-22  1:14                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-26 18:30                             ` Phillip Susi
2007-12-20 20:36                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-27 10:44                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-18  5:12                 ` David Schwartz
2007-12-17 20:59             ` David Schwartz
2007-12-15  7:13         ` Herbert Xu
2007-12-15 16:30           ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-17 17:28           ` Signed divides vs shifts (Re: [Security] /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data) Linus Torvalds
2007-12-17 17:48             ` Al Viro
2007-12-17 17:55             ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-17 18:05               ` Ray Lee
2007-12-17 18:10                 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-17 18:12                   ` Ray Lee
2007-12-17 18:23               ` Al Viro
2007-12-17 18:28               ` [Security] Signed divides vs shifts (Re: " Linus Torvalds
2007-12-17 19:08                 ` Al Viro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-12-15  7:20 /dev/urandom uses uninit bytes, leaks user data Matti Linnanvuori
2007-12-15  7:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-12-15 22:44 linux

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