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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: James Nichols <jamesnichols3@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: After many hours all outbound connections get stuck in SYN_SENT
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:03:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47695CEF.4090908@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83a51e120712190943m3bf0e2e4v2ea6b660142e9a5a@mail.gmail.com>

James Nichols a écrit :
> On 12/19/07, Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> wrote:
>> James Nichols a écrit :
>>>> So you see outgoing SYN packets, but no SYN replies coming from the remote
>>>> peer ?  (you mention ACKS, but the first packet received from the remote
>>>>  peer should be a SYN+ACK),
>>> Right, I meant to say SYN+ACK.  I don't see them coming back.
>> So... Really unlikely a linux problem, but ...
>>
> 
> 
> I don't know how you can be so sure.  Turning tcp_sack off instantly
> resovles the problem and all connections are succesful.  I can't
> imagine even the most far-fetched scenario where a router or every
> single remote endpoints would suddenly stop causing the problem just
> by removing a single TCP option.
> 
> 
>>> I can take these captures and take a look at the results.
>>> Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to make the captures
>>> available to the general public.
>> I dont understand, why dont you change IPs to mask them with 192.168.X.Y, or
>> just ME, and peer1, peer2, peer...
> 
> I will see if I can do that, but it's major pain with 2000 hosts.
> Plus, there is application data in the packets that I can't allow into
> the public domain.  I really don't think I can pull it off... I
> literally would have to go through our legal department.

I still dont understand.

"tcpdump -p -n -s 1600 -c 10000" doesnt reveal User data at all.

Without any exact data from you, I am afraid nobody can help.

> 
>> Random ideas :
>>
>> 1) Is your server behind a NET router or something ?
> 
> What's a NET router?  I am behind a Cisco router and a firewall, but
> these network components have completely been replaced/rebuilt several
> times in the 4+ years that we've had this problem.  I've looked at the
> logs there and neither are doing anything other than passing the
> traffic along.

Typo error, I meant NAT. Most routers doing NAT have some limits, timers, hacks...

> 
>> 2) Are you sure you are not using connection tracking, and hit a limit on it ?
> 
> I'm using ip_conntrack, but the limit I have for max entries is 65K.
> The most I've seen in there are a couple thousand- that was one of the
> first things I monitored very closely.

Now please try without conn tracking module. I saw many failures in the past
that were trigered by conntrack.

Do you have some firewall rules, using some netfilter modules like hashlimit ?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-19 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-14 20:39 After many hours all outbound connections get stuck in SYN_SENT James Nichols
2007-12-17 23:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-18 15:34   ` James Nichols
2007-12-18 16:05     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-18 16:45       ` James Nichols
2007-12-18 17:19         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-18 18:09           ` James Nichols
2007-12-18 18:14             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-18 18:21               ` James Nichols
2007-12-18 18:30                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-18 18:32                 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-18 19:44                   ` James Nichols
2007-12-18 20:37                     ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-18 21:20                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-19 16:53                       ` James Nichols
2007-12-19 17:07                         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-19 17:43                           ` James Nichols
2007-12-19 17:58                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-19 18:12                               ` James Nichols
2007-12-20 14:41                               ` Glen Turner
2007-12-20 16:37                                 ` James Nichols
2007-12-20 21:05                                   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-12-21  6:06                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-21  4:51                                   ` Glen Turner
2007-12-21 13:57                                     ` James Nichols
2007-12-19 18:03                             ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2007-12-19 21:27                               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-12-20 16:08                               ` James Nichols
2007-12-20 20:44                                 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2007-12-20 20:49                                 ` Justin Banks
2007-12-18 19:45                   ` James Nichols
2007-12-18 20:28                     ` Chuck Ebbert

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