From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"David P. Reed" <dpreed@reed.com>,
Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Paul Rolland <rol@as2917.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
rol@witbe.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override.
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:11:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <477AC8BA.2050503@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <477AC130.3050901@zytor.com>
On 01-01-08 23:39, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>> Yes, we do. It's exactly this side effect which makes this safer
>>> than either 0x80 or 0xED -- it's a port that *guaranteed* can't be
>>> reclaimed for other purposes without breaking MS-DOS compatibility.
>>
>> I see that with CR0.NE set (*) we indeed don't care about IGNNE#...
>>
>> However, I'm worried about this comment in arch/x86/kernel/i8259_32.c
>>
>> ===
>> /*
>> * New motherboards sometimes make IRQ 13 be a PCI interrupt,
>> * so allow interrupt sharing.
>> */
>> ===
>>
>> Is it really safe to just blindly negate IRQ13 on everything out
>> there, from regular PC through funky embedded thingies?
>
> It's not any IRQ 13, it's IRQ 13 from the FPU.
Well, on the PIIX it is and I guess on anything where it's _not_ fully
internal an 0xf0 write wouldn't have any effect on IRQ13...
When you earlier mentioned this it seemed 0xed switched on DMI would be good
enough, but well.
Alan, do you have an opinion on the port 0xf0 write? It should probably
still be combined with a replacement/deletion for new machines due to the
bus-locking "bad for real-time" thing you mentioned earlier but in the short
run it could be a fairly low-impact replacement on anything except a 386+387
We should do a another timing measurement survey and it makes for sligtly
worse code if we indeed feel it's not safe enough to write anything other
than 0, but otherwise it's quite minimal.
Rene.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-01 23:14 UTC|newest]
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2007-11-12 16:55 ` [PATCH] x86: fix locking and sync bugs in x86_64 RTC code in time_64.c David P. Reed
2007-11-14 7:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-14 13:10 ` David P. Reed
2007-11-14 18:26 ` Matt Mackall
2007-11-14 21:22 ` David P. Reed
2007-11-12 17:02 ` [PATCH] time: fix typo that makes sync_cmos_clock erratic David P. Reed
2007-11-14 7:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-12 19:19 ` David P. Reed
2007-11-14 22:47 ` [PATCH] x86: fix freeze in x86_64 RTC update code in time_64.c David P. Reed
2007-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH] time: fix typo that makes sync_cmos_clock erratic David P. Reed
2007-11-15 1:14 ` [PATCH] x86: on x86_64, correct reading of PC RTC when update in progress in time_64.c David P. Reed
2007-11-15 19:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-15 20:31 ` David P. Reed
2007-11-15 22:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-12-14 2:59 ` [PATCH] x86_64: fix problems due to use of "outb" to port 80 on some AMD64x2 laptops, etc David P. Reed
2007-12-14 7:49 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-12-14 9:45 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 14:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:36 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 14:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 18:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-14 18:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-14 21:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-15 22:59 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-14 10:51 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-14 11:11 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-14 13:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 13:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 13:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 13:42 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 14:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 14:10 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 14:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 18:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-14 18:23 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-14 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-14 23:29 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-15 3:04 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-15 5:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 17:17 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-15 17:46 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-17 22:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-17 22:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 8:08 ` Paul Rolland
2007-12-15 8:13 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-15 20:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 23:26 ` [PATCH] x86: " Rene Herman
2007-12-15 23:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 0:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 13:15 ` [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override Rene Herman
2007-12-16 15:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 1:43 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 2:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 2:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 3:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 13:02 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 17:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 19:43 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 19:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:02 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 21:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:25 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 15:57 ` David P. Reed
2008-01-01 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 15:59 ` David P. Reed
2008-01-01 16:15 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 16:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 18:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 20:14 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 21:13 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 21:07 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-02 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 13:11 ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-01-02 13:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 13:47 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-02 15:35 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02 15:50 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 17:32 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 18:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 19:35 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 19:59 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 20:55 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 21:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 21:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 21:26 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 21:42 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 21:42 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 21:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 23:05 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 23:12 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-02 0:23 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-02 10:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 17:32 ` David P. Reed
2008-01-01 17:38 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 21:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 21:35 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 21:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 22:35 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 22:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 23:11 ` Rene Herman [this message]
2008-01-02 0:25 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02 0:55 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-02 1:00 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02 2:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-09 17:27 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-01-09 18:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 17:31 ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-01 17:33 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 4:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 10:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 11:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 13:34 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 12:15 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 13:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 13:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 13:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-17 13:31 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 13:32 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 13:36 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 14:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 16:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-17 16:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 20:48 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 20:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:33 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 21:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 21:50 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 21:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 21:47 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 21:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 22:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 22:18 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 19:38 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 19:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-16 21:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 1:48 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 1:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 23:12 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 1:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 2:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 2:15 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-16 0:23 ` [PATCH] x86: fix problems due to use of "outb" to port 80 on some AMD64x2 laptops, etc David P. Reed
2007-12-15 20:26 ` [PATCH] x86_64: " H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 22:55 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-16 9:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 21:04 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 23:20 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-18 0:06 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-18 15:49 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-12-17 22:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-12-15 7:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-15 7:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-15 13:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-15 14:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-15 20:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 14:29 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-15 16:19 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-15 16:48 ` Mark Lord
2007-12-15 17:51 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-15 23:00 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-15 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 9:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-16 21:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 23:06 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-16 23:23 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-16 23:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 20:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-17 1:51 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-14 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-15 2:13 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-15 2:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 18:14 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-12-17 18:54 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-19 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-30 3:34 [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override Rene Herman
2007-12-30 9:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-30 12:48 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-30 13:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 16:08 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-30 16:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 18:21 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-30 13:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 14:14 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 14:47 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 15:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 15:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 16:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 16:48 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 17:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 18:14 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 18:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 19:33 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-30 20:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 21:20 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-30 21:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 23:14 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-31 0:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-31 11:59 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 18:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-31 12:23 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 14:35 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-31 15:56 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 20:22 ` Ondrej Zary
2007-12-31 21:25 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 21:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-31 23:24 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 23:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-02 3:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 17:10 ` Juergen Beisert
2007-12-30 20:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-31 1:03 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-31 1:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-30 15:47 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 16:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 16:27 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 17:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 17:54 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 18:29 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 18:43 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-30 20:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:07 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 21:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:29 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 22:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-31 13:11 ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-01 16:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 18:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-30 20:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:28 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 21:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:13 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 15:29 ` Christer Weinigel
2007-12-31 13:21 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-31 12:29 ` Alan Cox
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2007-12-30 17:50 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-12-30 18:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 20:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-30 21:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:32 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-12-30 21:33 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 22:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-30 21:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 20:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-30 21:31 ` Alan Cox
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2008-01-07 19:38 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-07 19:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-07 22:02 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-07 22:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-07 22:27 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-07 22:59 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-07 23:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-07 23:26 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-08 0:10 ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-01-09 21:01 ` Matthieu castet
2008-01-08 12:51 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-08 14:09 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-08 14:31 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-07 23:25 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 13:17 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-08 14:38 ` Alan Cox
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