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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Christer Weinigel <christer@weinigel.se>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"David P. Reed" <dpreed@reed.com>,
	Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>,
	Paul Rolland <rol@as2917.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	rol@witbe.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override.
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:59:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4782AED5.1060406@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.0.999.0801072316440.16143@be1.lrz>

On 07-01-08 23:27, Bodo Eggert wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, H. Peter Anvin wrote:

>> There might have been a few 386/20's clocking the ISA bus at ­­÷3 (6.67
>> MHz) rather than ÷2 (10 MHz) or ÷2.5 (8 MHz).
> 
> Yes, and the remaining users should set the kernel option. Both of them. 
> The question is: How will they be told about the new kernel option?

What exactly are you guys still talking about? Alan is looking at drivers 
and finds that in them outb_p is generally correct and correctly specified 
in bus-clocks for at least some (8390 was quoted). In those legacy drivers, 
the _p ops can simply stay and can use the 15-year old proven 0x80 outb.

(with molnar suggesting they be renamed isa_in/outb_p and me suggesting that 
if someone would be doing _that_ they might as well split them manually in 
outb(); slow_down_io() possibly renaming slow_down_io() to isa_io_delay() or 
similar).

Is this only about the ones then left for things like legacy PIC and PIT? 
Does anyone care about just sticking in a udelay(2) (or 1) there as a 
replacement and call it a day?

Rene.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-07 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 242+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2008-01-07 19:38                       ` [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override Bodo Eggert
2008-01-07 19:46                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-07 22:02                           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-07 22:10                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-07 22:27                               ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-07 22:59                                 ` Rene Herman [this message]
2008-01-07 23:24                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-07 23:26                                     ` Rene Herman
2008-01-08  0:10                                       ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-01-08  0:13                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-08  1:38                                           ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 17:10                                             ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-08 17:24                                               ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 17:38                                                 ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-08 18:44                                                   ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 18:51                                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 19:15                                                       ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 19:23                                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 19:51                                                           ` David P. Reed
2008-01-09  2:52                                                         ` Zachary Amsden
2008-01-09  5:19                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-09 21:53                                                             ` Zachary Amsden
2008-01-09 22:22                                                               ` David P. Reed
2008-01-11  1:36                                                                 ` Zachary Amsden
2008-01-11  3:05                                                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-01-11 14:35                                                                     ` David P. Reed
2008-01-11 14:37                                                                       ` Alan Cox
2008-01-11 15:07                                                                         ` David P. Reed
2008-01-11 17:54                                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-11 14:49                                                                       ` Rene Herman
2008-01-14 21:57                                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-01-14 22:22                                                                         ` David P. Reed
2008-01-16 14:36                                                                           ` David Newall
2008-01-16 14:55                                                                             ` Alan Cox
2008-01-16 19:15                                                                               ` David Newall
2008-01-16 20:08                                                                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-17  6:25                                                                                   ` David Newall
2008-01-17 12:02                                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-01-17 13:36                                                                                       ` David Newall
2008-01-17 13:55                                                                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-01-17 21:58                                                                                           ` David Newall
2008-01-17 22:13                                                                                             ` Rene Herman
2008-01-18 13:37                                                                                               ` David Newall
2008-01-18 14:05                                                                                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-17 15:51                                                                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-09  5:30                                                           ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-09 14:42                                                             ` David P. Reed
2008-01-09 15:27                                                             ` Rene Herman
2008-01-09 18:17                                                               ` Zachary Amsden
2008-01-09 18:18                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-09 20:26                                                                   ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-09 21:59                                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-09 18:22                                                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-09 18:27                                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-08 19:25                                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-08 20:28                                                       ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 21:43                                                         ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-08 22:24                                                           ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 18:51                                                   ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-08 19:13                                                     ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-09 21:01                                         ` Matthieu castet
2008-01-08 12:51                                       ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-08 13:07                                         ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-01-08 14:37                                           ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 14:09                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-01-08 14:31                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-07 23:57                                     ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-01-08  1:58                                       ` Alan Cox
2008-01-07 23:25                             ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 13:17                               ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-08 14:38                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08  3:15                         ` Christer Weinigel
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2007-12-30 17:50       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-12-30 18:10         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 20:56           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-30 21:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:32               ` Bodo Eggert
2007-12-30 21:33               ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 22:02                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:44               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-30 21:58                 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 20:53         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-30 21:31           ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 14:39             ` Bodo Eggert
2007-12-31 15:56               ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30  3:34 Rene Herman
2007-12-30  9:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-30 12:48   ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-30 13:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 16:08       ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-30 16:28         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 18:21           ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-30 13:03   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 14:14   ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 14:47   ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 15:28     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 15:38       ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 16:01         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 16:48           ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 17:08             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 18:14             ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 18:39               ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 19:33                 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 20:00                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-30 20:09                     ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 21:20                     ` David P. Reed
2007-12-30 21:36                       ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 23:14                         ` David P. Reed
2007-12-31  0:23                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-31 11:59                             ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 18:19                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-31 12:23               ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 14:35                 ` Rene Herman
2007-12-31 15:56                   ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 20:22                     ` Ondrej Zary
2007-12-31 21:25                       ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 21:47                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-31 23:24                           ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 23:41                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-02  3:01                     ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 17:10         ` Juergen Beisert
2007-12-30 20:50           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-31  1:03             ` David P. Reed
2007-12-31  1:40               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-30 15:47       ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 16:07         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 16:27           ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 17:06             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 17:54               ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 18:29               ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 18:43                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-30 20:46                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:07                   ` Rene Herman
2007-12-30 21:25                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:29                   ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 22:03                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-31 13:11                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-01 16:48                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 18:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-30 20:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:28             ` Alan Cox
2007-12-30 21:54               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 21:13           ` Alan Cox
2007-12-31 15:29             ` Christer Weinigel
2007-12-31 13:21           ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-31 12:29             ` Alan Cox
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2007-12-14  2:59             ` [PATCH] x86_64: fix problems due to use of "outb" to port 80 on some AMD64x2 laptops, etc David P. Reed
2007-12-14 13:15               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-14 18:02                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-14 21:06                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-14 22:13                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-14 23:29                       ` Alan Cox
2007-12-15  8:08                         ` Paul Rolland
2007-12-15  8:13                           ` Rene Herman
2007-12-15 20:27                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-15 23:26                               ` [PATCH] x86: " Rene Herman
2007-12-15 23:51                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 13:15                                   ` [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override Rene Herman
2007-12-16 15:22                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17  1:43                                       ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17  2:05                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17  2:19                                           ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17  3:35                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 13:02                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 17:14                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 19:43                                                   ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 19:55                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:02                                                       ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 21:17                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:25                                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 15:57                                                       ` David P. Reed
2008-01-01 21:16                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 15:59                                                       ` David P. Reed
2008-01-01 16:15                                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 16:43                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 17:32                                                             ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 18:45                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 20:14                                                                 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 21:13                                                                   ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 21:07                                                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-02 10:04                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 13:47                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-01-02 15:35                                                                       ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02 15:50                                                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 17:32                                                             ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 18:46                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 19:35                                                                 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 19:59                                                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 20:55                                                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 21:24                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 21:01                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 21:26                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 21:42                                                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 21:42                                                                       ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 21:50                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 21:21                                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 23:05                                                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-01 23:12                                                                       ` Alan Cox
2008-01-02  0:23                                                                         ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-02 10:00                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 17:32                                                           ` David P. Reed
2008-01-01 17:38                                                             ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 21:15                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 21:35                                                             ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 21:44                                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 22:35                                                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-01 22:39                                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 23:11                                                                     ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02  0:25                                                                       ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02  0:55                                                                       ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-02  1:00                                                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-01-02  2:27                                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-09 17:27                                                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-01-09 18:18                                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-01 17:31                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-01 17:33                                                           ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17  4:09                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 10:57                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 11:29                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 13:34                                             ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 12:15                                           ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 13:09                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 13:22                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 13:31                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-17 13:31                                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 13:32                                                 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 13:36                                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 14:39                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 16:12                                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-12-17 16:48                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 20:48                                                       ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 20:57                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:33                                                           ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 21:40                                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:46                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 21:50                                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 21:41                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 21:47                                                           ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 21:56                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-17 22:01                                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17 22:18                                                                 ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 19:38                                                     ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 19:55                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 21:28                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-16 21:42                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17  1:48                                       ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17  1:53                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-16 23:12                                     ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17  1:56                                       ` Rene Herman
2007-12-17  2:04                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17  2:15                                           ` Rene Herman

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