linux-kernel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed@reed.com>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>,
	Christer Weinigel <christer@weinigel.se>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Paul Rolland <rol@as2917.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	rol@witbe.net
Subject: Re: [linux-kernel] Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override.
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:10:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4782BF77.80703@reed.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4782B515.3010008@keyaccess.nl>

On another topic.  I have indeed determined what device uses port 80 on 
Quanta AMD64 laptops from HP.

I had lunch with Jim Gettys of OLPC a week ago; he's an old friend since 
he worked on the original X windows system.   After telling him my story 
about port 80, he mentioned that the OLPC XO machine had some issues 
with port 80 which was by design handled by the ENE KBC device on its 
motherboard.   He said the ENE was a very desirable chipset for AMD 
designs recommended by Quanta.  Richard Smith of OLPC explained to me 
how the KB3700 they use works, and that they use the KB3700 to send POST 
codes out over a serial link during boot up.

This gave me a reason to take apart my laptop, to discover that it has 
an ENE KB3920 B0 as its EC and KBC.  The port interface for the KB3920 
includes listening to port 80 which is then made available to firmware 
on the EC.  It is recognized and decoded on the LPC bus, only for 
writes, and optionally can generate an interrupt in the 8051.

Dumping both the ENE chip, and looking at the DSDT.dsl for my machine, I 
discovered that port 80 is used as an additional parameter for various 
DSDT methods that communicate to the EC, when it is operating in ACPI mode.

More work is in progress as I play around with this.  But the key thing 
is that ACPI and perhaps SMM both use port 80 as part of the base 
function of the chipset.

And actually, if I had looked at the /sys/bus/pnp definitions, rather 
than /proc/ioports, I would have noticed that port 80 was part of a 
PNP0C02 resource set.   That means exactly one thing:  ACPI says that 
port 80 is NOT free to be used, for delays or anything else.

This should make no difference here: it's just one more reason to stop 
using port 80 for delays on modern machines.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-08  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <9BdU5-1YW-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <9BeZN-3Gf-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <9BnTB-1As-31@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <9BrX4-8go-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <9BuBG-4eR-51@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <9BvRd-6aL-71@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <9GRQW-1DX-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <9GSah-23W-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <9GSDy-2GD-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <9GTpK-40d-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                   ` <9GUvy-5H2-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                     ` <9GVKU-7SS-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-01-07 19:38                       ` [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override Bodo Eggert
2008-01-07 19:46                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-07 22:02                           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-07 22:10                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-07 22:27                               ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-07 22:59                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-07 23:24                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-07 23:26                                     ` Rene Herman
2008-01-08  0:10                                       ` David P. Reed [this message]
2008-01-08  0:13                                         ` [linux-kernel] " H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-08  1:38                                           ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 17:10                                             ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-08 17:24                                               ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 17:38                                                 ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-08 18:44                                                   ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 18:51                                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 19:15                                                       ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 19:23                                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 19:51                                                           ` David P. Reed
2008-01-09  2:52                                                         ` Zachary Amsden
2008-01-09  5:19                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-09 21:53                                                             ` Zachary Amsden
2008-01-09 22:22                                                               ` David P. Reed
2008-01-11  1:36                                                                 ` Zachary Amsden
2008-01-11  3:05                                                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-01-11 14:35                                                                     ` David P. Reed
2008-01-11 14:37                                                                       ` Alan Cox
2008-01-11 15:07                                                                         ` David P. Reed
2008-01-11 17:54                                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-11 14:49                                                                       ` Rene Herman
2008-01-14 21:57                                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-01-14 22:22                                                                         ` David P. Reed
2008-01-16 14:36                                                                           ` David Newall
2008-01-16 14:55                                                                             ` Alan Cox
2008-01-16 19:15                                                                               ` David Newall
2008-01-16 20:08                                                                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-17  6:25                                                                                   ` David Newall
2008-01-17 12:02                                                                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-01-17 13:36                                                                                       ` David Newall
2008-01-17 13:55                                                                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-01-17 21:58                                                                                           ` David Newall
2008-01-17 22:13                                                                                             ` Rene Herman
2008-01-18 13:37                                                                                               ` David Newall
2008-01-18 14:05                                                                                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-01-17 15:51                                                                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-09  5:30                                                           ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-09 14:42                                                             ` David P. Reed
2008-01-09 15:27                                                             ` Rene Herman
2008-01-09 18:17                                                               ` Zachary Amsden
2008-01-09 18:18                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-09 20:26                                                                   ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-09 21:59                                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-09 18:22                                                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-09 18:27                                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-01-08 19:25                                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-08 20:28                                                       ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 21:43                                                         ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-08 22:24                                                           ` David P. Reed
2008-01-08 18:51                                                   ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-08 19:13                                                     ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-09 21:01                                         ` Matthieu castet
2008-01-08 12:51                                       ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-08 13:07                                         ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-01-08 14:37                                           ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 14:09                                         ` Rene Herman
2008-01-08 14:31                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-07 23:57                                     ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-01-08  1:58                                       ` Alan Cox
2008-01-07 23:25                             ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 13:17                               ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-08 14:38                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08  3:15                         ` Christer Weinigel
     [not found] <fa.u5p8NBl8IjcycTVVtf0K+YtqNQc@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.NOJkdyuk0c8CAqzZcG+pF1TzhJM@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.YLAHN7jSUo9phsICUHnxilN7/lk@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]     ` <fa.SvgVgdNA9oz4F+tQ9MB2VRwr8ck@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]       ` <fa.By1MDYK0MY/fwkCWWrAiQCxl5KM@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]         ` <fa.97XrGLIGlvAy4P/TB5vHHrfBrIw@ifi.uio.no>
2008-01-10  0:37           ` [linux-kernel] " Robert Hancock
2008-01-10  0:44             ` Rene Herman
2008-01-10 14:41               ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 13:02 Rene Herman
2007-12-17 17:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-17 19:43   ` David P. Reed
2007-12-17 21:25     ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 15:59       ` David P. Reed
2008-01-01 16:15         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 16:43           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 17:32             ` Alan Cox
2008-01-01 18:45               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-01 21:07                 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-02 10:04                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-02 13:11                     ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-01-02 13:21                       ` Ingo Molnar

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4782BF77.80703@reed.com \
    --to=dpreed@reed.com \
    --cc=7eggert@gmx.de \
    --cc=alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk \
    --cc=christer@weinigel.se \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@elte.hu \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=pavel@ucw.cz \
    --cc=rene.herman@keyaccess.nl \
    --cc=rol@as2917.net \
    --cc=rol@witbe.net \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).