From: Tony Camuso <tcamuso@redhat.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz>, Loic Prylli <loic@myri.com>,
Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
"Chumbalkar, Nagananda" <Nagananda.Chumbalkar@hp.com>,
"Schoeller, Patrick (Linux - Houston,
TX)" <Patrick.Schoeller@hp.com>,
Bhavana Nagendra <bnagendr@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch v2] Make PCI extended config space (MMCONFIG) a driver opt-in
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:23:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <478B7E62.9070700@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080114064614.22081ff3@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:01:01 -0500
> Tony Camuso <tcamuso@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> If we're going to differentiate MMCONFIG from
>> some other access mechanism, it only needs to be done at the
>> Northbridge level. Devices are electrically ignorant of the protocol
>> used between CPU and Northbridge to get the Northbridge to assert
>> config cycles on the bus.
>
> Again this is about having systems that don't need extended config space not use it. At all.
> The only way to do that is have the drivers say they need it, and not use it otherwise.
> It has NOTHING to do with how things are wired up. It's pure a kernel level policy decision
> about whether to use extended config space AT ALL.
>
The problem with compelling device drivers to determine the PCI
config mechanism is that it must be forced upon arches that
have no PCI configuration quirks or don't even use the same
PCI config mechanisms as x86.
I don't think that's a good policy.
Better to confine arch-specific quirks to the arch-specific code
whenever possible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-14 15:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-25 11:26 [Patch v2] Make PCI extended config space (MMCONFIG) a driver opt-in Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-27 11:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-27 14:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-27 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 19:02 ` Greg KH
2008-01-11 19:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-11 19:14 ` Greg KH
2008-01-11 19:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 19:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-11 19:45 ` Greg KH
2008-01-11 19:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 20:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 20:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 21:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 21:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 21:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 21:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 23:58 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 0:17 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-01-12 0:26 ` Greg KH
2008-01-12 14:40 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 15:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-12 16:23 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 17:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-12 18:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-12 21:49 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 23:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 0:12 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-13 0:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 1:36 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-13 4:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 4:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 6:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-13 12:43 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-13 17:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 21:28 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 0:54 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-14 1:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 3:29 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 5:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 13:01 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 14:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 15:23 ` Tony Camuso [this message]
2008-01-14 16:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 16:08 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 9:11 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-14 5:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-13 18:23 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-13 18:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 20:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 21:18 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-13 20:51 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-13 7:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-13 7:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 7:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 17:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 22:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-14 23:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-15 16:00 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-15 17:46 ` Greg KH
2008-01-15 17:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-15 19:27 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-15 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-15 19:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-15 22:12 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-19 16:58 ` Grant Grundler
2008-01-28 18:32 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-28 20:44 ` Greg KH
2008-01-28 22:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-28 22:53 ` Greg KH
2008-01-29 2:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-29 2:57 ` PCI x86: always use conf1 to access config space below 256 bytes Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-29 13:21 ` Greg KH
2008-01-29 23:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-30 0:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-29 3:03 ` [PATCH] Change pci_raw_ops to pci_raw_read/write Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-03 7:30 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-07 15:54 ` Tony Camuso
2008-02-07 16:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-07 16:36 ` Tony Camuso
2008-02-08 2:28 ` Grant Grundler
2008-02-09 12:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 6:25 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-10 7:21 ` Greg KH
2008-02-10 14:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 19:13 ` Grant Grundler
2008-02-10 19:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 20:16 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-10 20:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 20:25 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-10 20:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 20:47 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-10 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-10 20:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 23:02 ` raw_pci_read in quirk_intel_irqbalance Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-11 5:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-11 7:49 ` Grant Grundler
2008-02-11 16:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-11 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-11 19:38 ` Grant Grundler
2008-02-11 1:49 ` [PATCH] Change pci_raw_ops to pci_raw_read/write Yinghai Lu
2008-02-11 2:53 ` Robert Hancock
2008-02-11 5:59 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-11 22:10 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-11 22:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-29 3:05 ` [Patch v2] Make PCI extended config space (MMCONFIG) a driver opt-in Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-29 3:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-29 13:19 ` Greg KH
2008-01-29 14:15 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-29 14:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-29 15:15 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-29 15:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-29 16:26 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-29 23:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-30 2:30 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-30 3:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-30 15:15 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-30 15:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-30 20:14 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-31 5:51 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-01-11 19:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-11 20:55 ` Greg KH
2008-01-15 12:58 ` Øyvind Vågen Jægtnes
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2007-12-27 17:59 ` Robert Hancock
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2007-12-27 18:15 ` Robert Hancock
2007-12-27 18:30 ` Kai Ruhnau
2007-12-27 18:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-27 21:10 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-27 21:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-27 21:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-27 21:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-27 22:18 ` Kai Ruhnau
2007-12-28 4:27 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-12-28 5:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-28 6:07 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-12-28 10:34 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-12-28 16:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-28 16:38 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-12-28 17:40 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-28 21:12 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-13 6:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 7:19 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-28 5:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-27 21:59 ` Kai Ruhnau
2007-12-28 5:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 5:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 5:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-28 6:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 19:14 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-28 20:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 0:18 ` Robert Hancock
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