From: Tony Camuso <tcamuso@redhat.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>,
Loic Prylli <loic@myri.com>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [Patch v2] Make PCI extended config space (MMCONFIG) a driver opt-in
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:15:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <479F4321.6030106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080129064724.0f7e91e5@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:15:02 -0500
> Tony Camuso <tcamuso@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Greg,
>>
>> The problem with Arjan's patch, if I understand it correctly, is that
>> it requires drivers to make a call to access extended PCI config
>> space.
>>
>> And, IIRC, Arjan's patch encumbers drivers for all arch's, even those
>> that have no MMCONFIG problems.
>>
>> The patches proposed by Loic, Ivan, Matthew, and myself, all address
>> the problem in an x86-specific manner that is transparent to the
>> drivers.
>
> this is not quite correct; the patches from Loic, Ivan, Matthew and you are for a different
> problem statement.
>
> Your patch problem statement is "need to fix mmconfig", my patch problem statement is "need
> to not make users who don't need it suffer". These are orthogonal problems.
>
>
Yes, but your patch also makes users who need extended PCI config space suffer.
Right now, that isn't a lot of people in x86 land, but your patch encumbers drivers
for non-x86 archs with an additional call to access space that they've never had
a problem with.
As more PCI express drivers start to take advantage of AER and other advanced
express capabilities, the extra call to address a condition specific to legacy
x86 hardware is, IMNSHO, a kludge.
The patches submitted by the others fix the problems with MMCONFIG without
encumbering the drivers to be aware of any difference between legacy config
space and extended config space.
I have tested these patches on a number of systems exhibiting various MMCONFIG-
related pathologies, and they work.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-29 15:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-25 11:26 [Patch v2] Make PCI extended config space (MMCONFIG) a driver opt-in Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-27 11:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-27 14:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-27 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 19:02 ` Greg KH
2008-01-11 19:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-11 19:14 ` Greg KH
2008-01-11 19:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 19:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-11 19:45 ` Greg KH
2008-01-11 19:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 20:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 20:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 21:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 21:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 21:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 21:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 23:58 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 0:17 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-01-12 0:26 ` Greg KH
2008-01-12 14:40 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 15:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-12 16:23 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 17:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-12 18:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-12 21:49 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 23:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 0:12 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-13 0:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 1:36 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-13 4:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 4:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 6:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-13 12:43 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-13 17:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 21:28 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 0:54 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-14 1:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 3:29 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 5:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 13:01 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 14:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 15:23 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 16:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 16:08 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 9:11 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-14 5:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-13 18:23 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-13 18:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 20:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 21:18 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-13 20:51 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-13 7:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-13 7:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 7:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 17:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 22:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-14 23:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-15 16:00 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-15 17:46 ` Greg KH
2008-01-15 17:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-15 19:27 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-15 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-15 19:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-15 22:12 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-19 16:58 ` Grant Grundler
2008-01-28 18:32 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-28 20:44 ` Greg KH
2008-01-28 22:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-28 22:53 ` Greg KH
2008-01-29 2:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-29 2:57 ` PCI x86: always use conf1 to access config space below 256 bytes Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-29 13:21 ` Greg KH
2008-01-29 23:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-30 0:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-29 3:03 ` [PATCH] Change pci_raw_ops to pci_raw_read/write Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-03 7:30 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-07 15:54 ` Tony Camuso
2008-02-07 16:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-02-07 16:36 ` Tony Camuso
2008-02-08 2:28 ` Grant Grundler
2008-02-09 12:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 6:25 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-10 7:21 ` Greg KH
2008-02-10 14:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 19:13 ` Grant Grundler
2008-02-10 19:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 20:16 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-10 20:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 20:25 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-10 20:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 20:47 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-10 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-10 20:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-10 23:02 ` raw_pci_read in quirk_intel_irqbalance Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-11 5:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-11 7:49 ` Grant Grundler
2008-02-11 16:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-02-11 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-11 19:38 ` Grant Grundler
2008-02-11 1:49 ` [PATCH] Change pci_raw_ops to pci_raw_read/write Yinghai Lu
2008-02-11 2:53 ` Robert Hancock
2008-02-11 5:59 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-02-11 22:10 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-11 22:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-29 3:05 ` [Patch v2] Make PCI extended config space (MMCONFIG) a driver opt-in Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-29 3:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-29 13:19 ` Greg KH
2008-01-29 14:15 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-29 14:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-29 15:15 ` Tony Camuso [this message]
2008-01-29 15:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-29 16:26 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-29 23:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-30 2:30 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-30 3:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-30 15:15 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-30 15:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-30 20:14 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-31 5:51 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-01-11 19:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-11 20:55 ` Greg KH
2008-01-15 12:58 ` Øyvind Vågen Jægtnes
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2007-12-27 17:59 ` Robert Hancock
2007-12-27 19:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
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2007-12-27 18:15 ` Robert Hancock
2007-12-27 18:30 ` Kai Ruhnau
2007-12-27 18:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-27 21:10 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-27 21:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-27 21:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-27 21:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-27 22:18 ` Kai Ruhnau
2007-12-28 4:27 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-12-28 5:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-28 6:07 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-12-28 10:34 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-12-28 16:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-28 16:38 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-12-28 17:40 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-28 21:12 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-13 6:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 7:19 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-28 5:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-27 21:59 ` Kai Ruhnau
2007-12-28 5:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 5:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 5:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-28 6:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 19:14 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-28 20:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 0:18 ` Robert Hancock
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