From: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Scheduler(?) regression from 2.6.22 to 2.6.24 for short-lived threads
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:49:49 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47AD06BD.7040702@shaw.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa.6N2dhyJ1cmBqiuFKgCaYfwduM+0@ifi.uio.no>
Olof Johansson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I ended up with a customer benchmark in my lap this week that doesn't
> do well on recent kernels. :(
>
> After cutting it down to a simple testcase/microbenchmark, it seems like
> recent kernels don't do as well with short-lived threads competing
> with the thread it's cloned off of. The CFS scheduler changes come to
> mind, but I suppose it could be caused by something else as well.
>
> The pared-down testcase is included below. Reported runtime for the
> testcase has increased almost 3x between 2.6.22 and 2.6.24:
>
> 2.6.22: 3332 ms
> 2.6.23: 4397 ms
> 2.6.24: 8953 ms
> 2.6.24-git19: 8986 ms
>
> While running, it'll fork off a bunch of threads, each doing just a little
> work, then busy-waiting on the original thread to finish as well. Yes,
> it's incredibly stupidly coded but that's not my point here.
>
> During run, (runtime 10s on my 1.5GHz Core2 Duo laptop), vmstat 2 shows:
>
> 0 0 0 115196 364748 2248396 0 0 0 0 163 89 0 0 100 0
> 2 0 0 115172 364748 2248396 0 0 0 0 270 178 24 0 76 0
> 2 0 0 115172 364748 2248396 0 0 0 0 402 283 52 0 48 0
> 2 0 0 115180 364748 2248396 0 0 0 0 402 281 50 0 50 0
> 2 0 0 115180 364764 2248396 0 0 0 22 403 295 51 0 48 1
> 2 0 0 115056 364764 2248396 0 0 0 0 399 280 52 0 48 0
> 0 0 0 115196 364764 2248396 0 0 0 0 241 141 17 0 83 0
> 0 0 0 115196 364768 2248396 0 0 0 2 155 67 0 0 100 0
> 0 0 0 115196 364768 2248396 0 0 0 0 148 62 0 0 100 0
>
> I.e. runqueue is 2, but only one cpu is busy. However, this still seems
> true on the kernel that runs the testcase in more reasonable time.
>
> Also, 'time' reports real and user time roughly the same on all kernels,
> so it's not that the older kernels are better at spreading out the load
> between the two cores (either that or it doesn't account for stuff right).
>
> I've included the config files, runtime output and vmstat output at
> http://lixom.net/~olof/threadtest/. I see similar behaviour on PPC as
> well as x86, so it's not architecture-specific.
>
> Testcase below. Yes, I know, there's a bunch of stuff that could be done
> differently and better, but it still doesn't motivate why there's a 3x
> slowdown between kernel versions...
I would say that something coded this bizarrely is really an application
bug and not something that one could call a kernel regression. Any
change in how the parent and child threads get scheduled will have a
huge impact on this test. I bet if you replace that busy wait with a
pthread_cond_wait or something similar, this problem goes away.
Hopefully it doesn't have to be pointed out that spawning off threads to
do so little work before terminating is inefficient, a thread pool or
even just a single thread would likely do a much better job..
next parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-09 1:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <fa.6N2dhyJ1cmBqiuFKgCaYfwduM+0@ifi.uio.no>
2008-02-09 1:49 ` Robert Hancock [this message]
2008-02-09 0:04 Scheduler(?) regression from 2.6.22 to 2.6.24 for short-lived threads Olof Johansson
2008-02-09 0:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-09 0:32 ` Olof Johansson
2008-02-09 7:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-09 8:03 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-09 10:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-09 11:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-09 13:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-09 16:19 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-09 17:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-10 5:29 ` Olof Johansson
2008-02-10 6:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-10 7:00 ` Olof Johansson
2008-02-10 7:58 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-02-11 8:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-11 17:26 ` Olof Johansson
2008-02-11 19:58 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-11 20:31 ` Olof Johansson
2008-02-12 9:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-13 5:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-02-11 21:45 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-02-12 4:30 ` Mike Galbraith
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