From: David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Handshaking on USB serial devices
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:49:34 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47B520E6.5030809@davidnewall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080214204744.GB17277@kroah.com>
Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 07:55:44PM +1030, David Newall wrote:
>
>> The current 2.6 driver maintains it's own buffer. I think that's a bad
>> thing: usbserial already buffers writes, and the extra buffer copy seems
>> unnecessary, however it does solve the putchar problem. Buffered (i.e.
>> by the 2.6 series pl2303 driver) data is written as soon as practicable,
>> regardless of CTS/DTR. The same general workaround, but placed in
>> pl2303_send seems correct to me; that is, stop submitting write urbs
>> when the remote end lowers CTS/DTR, and trigger the resume from the
>> interrupt callback (specifically in update_line_status.)
>>
>
> Where does the usbserial core buffer writes on 2.6? The serial_write()
> function just passes the data straight down to the usb-serial child
> driver directly, no copying or buffering happens that I can see.
>
You're right. I haven't examined the 2.6 stack as closely as the 2.4.
I noticed the buffer in 2.6 pl2303, but didn't check 2.6 usb-serial. I
think I prefer the buffer in usb-serial, because its centralised rather
than in each driver, but I'm not going to step up to the plate and
propose changing that!
>> To make it clear: Even aside from the buffer in 2.6's pl2303.c, there's
>> a race: An in-flight write URB can fill all hardware buffers, making
>> unsafe what previously appeared to be a safe write. I think it's
>> essential to delay submission of the URB on a stop-transmit condition.
>>
>
> It's up to the individual driver to know when their buffers are filled
> up. The big problem is, a lot of these cheap usb-serial devices (like
> the pl2303) don't have a way to report the uart queue filled-state back
> to the host, so things can easily get over-run as you have found out.
>
My understanding of the problem has developed over the last couple of
days; going from wrist-deep to elbow-deep into the guts of things does
that. There is a problem, and the solution I've been developing
addresses it, but maybe there's a simpler answer. Hope to have a patch
together soon.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-15 5:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-13 14:45 Handshaking on USB serial devices David Newall
2008-02-14 5:02 ` Greg KH
2008-02-14 9:25 ` David Newall
2008-02-14 12:10 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-14 16:16 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-14 16:31 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-14 17:55 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-14 19:37 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-14 20:04 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-14 20:52 ` Greg KH
2008-02-14 21:32 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-15 5:08 ` David Newall
2008-02-14 22:39 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-02-14 23:09 ` Gene Heskett
2008-02-14 18:04 ` David Newall
2008-02-14 18:53 ` David Brownell
2008-02-14 19:36 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-21 15:22 ` David Newall
2008-02-21 15:15 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-21 19:35 ` David Newall
2008-02-21 20:58 ` Greg KH
2008-02-14 20:47 ` Greg KH
2008-02-15 5:19 ` David Newall [this message]
2008-02-14 11:55 ` Alan Cox
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2008-02-15 12:00 ` Bodo Eggert
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