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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "David P. Reed" <dpreed@reed.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: use explicit timing delay for pit accesses in kernel and pcspkr driver
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:05:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47B9F324.8060105@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47B9F2EC.4070308@keyaccess.nl>

On 18-02-08 22:04, Rene Herman wrote:
> On 18-02-08 21:43, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
>> Rene Herman wrote:
>>>
>>> Now with respect to the original pre port 80 "jmp $+2" I/O delay 
>>> (which the Pentium obsoleted) I suppose it'll probably be okay even 
>>> without fixing that specifically but do note such -- it's a vital 
>>> part of the problem.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, that paragraph didn't parse for me.
> 
> I mean that before the linux kernel used a port 0x80 write as an I/O 
> delay it used a short jump (two in a row actually...) as such and this 
> was at the time that it actually ran on the old legacy stuff that is of 
> most concern here.
> 
> No, if I'm not mistaken, those two jumps are actually what the udelay() 

_Now_, if I'm ...

> is going to do anyway as part of delay_loop() at that early stage so 
> that even before loops_per_jiffy calibration, I believe we should still 
> be okay.
> 
> Yes, it's a bit of a "well, hrrm" thing, but, well... loops_per_jiffy 
> can be initialised a bit more conservatively then today as well (and as 
> discussed earlier, possibly per CPU family) but I believe it's actually 
> sort of fine not too worry much about it...

Rene.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-18 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-18 18:58 [PATCH] x86: use explicit timing delay for pit accesses in kernel and pcspkr driver David P. Reed
2008-02-18 20:17 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-18 20:38 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 20:43   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-18 21:04     ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 21:05       ` Rene Herman [this message]
2008-02-18 21:44       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-18 21:59         ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 22:01           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-18 22:07             ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 22:32               ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 22:44                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-20 12:06                   ` Rene Herman
2008-02-20 17:05                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-20 17:09                       ` Rene Herman
2008-02-20 20:13                         ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-02-21  6:21                           ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 22:43               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-19  9:46 ` Ingo Molnar

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