From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "David P. Reed" <dpreed@reed.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: use explicit timing delay for pit accesses in kernel and pcspkr driver
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:59:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47B9FFD5.6040801@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47B9FC3A.2010508@zytor.com>
On 18-02-08 22:44, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Rene Herman wrote:
>>
>> I mean that before the linux kernel used a port 0x80 write as an I/O
>> delay it used a short jump (two in a row actually...) as such and this
>> was at the time that it actually ran on the old legacy stuff that is
>> of most concern here.
>>
>> No, if I'm not mistaken, those two jumps are actually what the
>> udelay() is going to do anyway as part of delay_loop() at that early
>> stage so that even before loops_per_jiffy calibration, I believe we
>> should still be okay.
>>
>
> That doesn't make any sense at all. The whole point why the two jumps
> were obsoleted with the P5 (or even late P4, if I'm not mistaken) was
> because they were utterly insufficient when the CPU ran at something
> much higher than the external speed.
Yes, but generally not any P5+ system is going to need the PIT delay in the
first place meaning it just doesn't matter. There were the VIA issues with
the PIC but unless I missed it not with the PIT.
That's the point. It's fairly unclean to say udelay(2) and then not delay
for 2 microseconds but you _have_ done the two short jumps meaning 386 and
486 systems are okay and later systems were okay to start with.
Rene.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-18 21:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-18 18:58 [PATCH] x86: use explicit timing delay for pit accesses in kernel and pcspkr driver David P. Reed
2008-02-18 20:17 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-18 20:38 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 20:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-18 21:04 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 21:05 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 21:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-18 21:59 ` Rene Herman [this message]
2008-02-18 22:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-18 22:07 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 22:32 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 22:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-20 12:06 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-20 17:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-20 17:09 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-20 20:13 ` [linux-kernel] " David P. Reed
2008-02-21 6:21 ` Rene Herman
2008-02-18 22:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-02-19 9:46 ` Ingo Molnar
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