From: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
To: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Alexey Dobriyan" <adobriyan@gmail.com>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.25-rc2 regression: LVM cannot find volume group
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:56:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BA99B6.5010005@imap.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080219015344.GA4066@agk.fab.redhat.com>
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Alasdair G Kergon schrieb:
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 11:37:37PM +0100, Jiri Slaby wrote:
>> # CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED is not set
>
> IMHO That should be *set* by default until everyone has had time to
> update their userspace software to cope with the changed sysfs layout.
It *is* set by default.
The root cause of the trouble is that its semantics are changing.
At one point in time (sorry, don't remember which kernel release
exactly) I tested whether the openSUSE 10.3 userspace supported
a CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=n kernel and found that it did. From
then on, "make oldconfig" would carry that setting over to every
new kernel I built, which was fine while the meaning of this
setting - ie. the difference in sysfs layout it controlled -
stayed the same.
With commit edfaa7c36574f1bf09c65ad602412db9da5f96bf however, the
sysfs layout changed again, so the same CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED
setting now controls a different difference (argh) in sysfs
layout. That kind of situation is not handled very well by
"make oldconfig", which basically starts from the assumption
that a setting that was ok for the previous kernel version is
still ok for the new one.
I see two ways of avoiding that problem: either create a new
backward compatibility config setting for that new sysfs change,
or create a way of telling "make oldconfig" that the semantics of
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED have changed and it should ask the user
for that again even if there is a previous setting.
HTH
T.
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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-15 21:23 Linux 2.6.25-rc2 Linus Torvalds
2008-02-16 2:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-16 5:44 ` [BUG] Linux 2.6.25-rc2 - Kernel Ooops while running dbench Kamalesh Babulal
2008-02-18 12:59 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-18 14:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-18 16:11 ` Frans Pop
2008-03-03 11:51 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-04 4:03 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2008-02-16 6:10 ` [BUG] Linux 2.6.25-rc2 - Regression from 2.6.24-rc1-git1 softlockup while bootup on powerpc Kamalesh Babulal
2008-02-17 19:29 ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-19 8:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-19 8:36 ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-19 8:47 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-19 8:58 ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-19 9:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-19 9:09 ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-19 9:02 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-19 9:01 ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-19 13:19 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2008-02-22 7:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-22 7:40 ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-17 20:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-16 16:52 ` Linux 2.6.25-rc2 Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-16 19:14 ` Linux 2.6.25-rc2 regression: LVM cannot find volume group Tilman Schmidt
2008-02-16 20:12 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-16 22:37 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-02-18 0:57 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-02-18 1:22 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-18 10:35 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-02-19 1:53 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-02-19 8:56 ` Tilman Schmidt [this message]
2008-02-16 21:38 ` Linux 2.6.25-rc2 Torsten Kaiser
2008-02-17 20:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-17 21:32 ` Torsten Kaiser
2008-02-18 23:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-19 6:44 ` Torsten Kaiser
2008-02-19 6:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 6:54 ` Torsten Kaiser
2008-02-19 7:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 10:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 10:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 13:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 14:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 14:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 14:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 14:38 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 14:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 14:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 15:54 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 15:52 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-20 0:36 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-02-20 2:08 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-02-20 6:53 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-02-20 7:10 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-19 16:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 16:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 19:27 ` Torsten Kaiser
2008-02-19 20:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-27 23:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 1:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-28 2:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 8:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-28 11:15 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-28 11:13 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-02-19 16:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-02-19 16:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-19 20:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-27 23:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 5:55 ` [PATCH] Implement slub fastpath in terms of freebase and freeoffset Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-28 19:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 23:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-29 0:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 1:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-29 2:12 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 3:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-29 5:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 13:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-29 19:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 13:28 ` [PATCH] Slub Freeoffset check overflow Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-03-04 6:17 ` [PATCH] Slub Freeoffset check overflow (updated) Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-03-04 7:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-27 23:32 ` Linux 2.6.25-rc2 Christoph Lameter
2008-02-19 18:39 ` Torsten Kaiser
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