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From: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
To: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Alexey Dobriyan" <adobriyan@gmail.com>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.25-rc2 regression: LVM cannot find volume group
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:56:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BA99B6.5010005@imap.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080219015344.GA4066@agk.fab.redhat.com>

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Alasdair G Kergon schrieb:
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 11:37:37PM +0100, Jiri Slaby wrote:
>> # CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED is not set
> 
> IMHO That should be *set* by default until everyone has had time to
> update their userspace software to cope with the changed sysfs layout.

It *is* set by default.

The root cause of the trouble is that its semantics are changing.
At one point in time (sorry, don't remember which kernel release
exactly) I tested whether the openSUSE 10.3 userspace supported
a CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=n kernel and found that it did. From
then on, "make oldconfig" would carry that setting over to every
new kernel I built, which was fine while the meaning of this
setting - ie. the difference in sysfs layout it controlled -
stayed the same.

With commit edfaa7c36574f1bf09c65ad602412db9da5f96bf however, the
sysfs layout changed again, so the same CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED
setting now controls a different difference (argh) in sysfs
layout. That kind of situation is not handled very well by
"make oldconfig", which basically starts from the assumption
that a setting that was ok for the previous kernel version is
still ok for the new one.

I see two ways of avoiding that problem: either create a new
backward compatibility config setting for that new sysfs change,
or create a way of telling "make oldconfig" that the semantics of
CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED have changed and it should ask the user
for that again even if there is a previous setting.

HTH
T.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-19  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-15 21:23 Linux 2.6.25-rc2 Linus Torvalds
2008-02-16  2:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-16  5:44 ` [BUG] Linux 2.6.25-rc2 - Kernel Ooops while running dbench Kamalesh Babulal
2008-02-18 12:59   ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-18 14:25     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-18 16:11       ` Frans Pop
2008-03-03 11:51     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-03-04  4:03       ` Kamalesh Babulal
2008-02-16  6:10 ` [BUG] Linux 2.6.25-rc2 - Regression from 2.6.24-rc1-git1 softlockup while bootup on powerpc Kamalesh Babulal
2008-02-17 19:29   ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-19  8:04     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-19  8:36       ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-19  8:47         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-19  8:58           ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-19  9:07             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-19  9:09               ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-19  9:02         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-02-19  9:01           ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-19 13:19         ` Kamalesh Babulal
2008-02-22  7:24         ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-22  7:40           ` Jens Axboe
2008-02-17 20:08   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-16 16:52 ` Linux 2.6.25-rc2 Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-16 19:14 ` Linux 2.6.25-rc2 regression: LVM cannot find volume group Tilman Schmidt
2008-02-16 20:12   ` Alan Cox
2008-02-16 22:37     ` Jiri Slaby
2008-02-18  0:57       ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-02-18  1:22         ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-18 10:35           ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-02-19  1:53       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-02-19  8:56         ` Tilman Schmidt [this message]
2008-02-16 21:38 ` Linux 2.6.25-rc2 Torsten Kaiser
2008-02-17 20:25   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-17 21:32     ` Torsten Kaiser
2008-02-18 23:54   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-19  6:44     ` Torsten Kaiser
2008-02-19  6:11   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19  6:54     ` Torsten Kaiser
2008-02-19  7:21       ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 10:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 10:45           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 13:02           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 14:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 14:02         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-19 14:21           ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 14:38             ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 14:55               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 14:57                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 15:54                   ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 15:52                 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-20  0:36                   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-02-20  2:08                     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-02-20  6:53                       ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-02-20  7:10                         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-02-19 16:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-19 16:45                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 16:48                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-19 19:27                 ` Torsten Kaiser
2008-02-19 20:08             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-27 23:32               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28  1:57                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-28  2:43                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28  8:14                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-28 11:15                     ` Alan Cox
2008-02-28 11:13                   ` Jiri Kosina
2008-02-19 16:27           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-02-19 16:38             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-19 20:03             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-27 23:34               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28  5:55                 ` [PATCH] Implement slub fastpath in terms of freebase and freeoffset Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-28 19:08                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-28 23:25                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-29  0:57                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29  1:56                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-29  2:12                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29  3:32                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-29  5:11                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 13:03                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-02-29 19:57                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-29 13:28                                 ` [PATCH] Slub Freeoffset check overflow Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-03-04  6:17                                   ` [PATCH] Slub Freeoffset check overflow (updated) Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-03-04  7:15                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-27 23:32             ` Linux 2.6.25-rc2 Christoph Lameter
2008-02-19 18:39           ` Torsten Kaiser

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