From: Alexey Starikovskiy <aystarik@gmail.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
suspend-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Jeff Chua <jeff.chua.linux@gmail.com>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:26:12 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BC9AF4.10807@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200802202145.01882.rjw@sisk.pl>
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, 20 of February 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>
>>> I think we should export the target sleep state somehow.
>>>
>> Yeah. By *not* using "->suspend()" for freezing or hibernate.
>>
>> Please, Rafael - just make the f*cking suspend-to-disk use other routines
>> already.
>>
>
> Okay, I think I'll just start sending patches for that, but rather not earlier
> than in the 2.6.27 time frame. No one else works on that and I've been busy
> with other things recently. Besides, I'm not even a full time kernel
> developer ...
>
>
Rafael,
If I can help, please say so.
Regards,
Alex.
>> 99% of all hardware needs to do exactly *nothing* on suspend-to-disk, and the
>> ones that really do need things tend to need to not do a whole lot.
>>
>> For example, the "freeze" action for USB (which is one of the hardest
>> things to suspend) should literally be something like just setting the
>> controller STOP bit, and waiting for it to have stopped. The "unfreeze"
>> should be to just clear the stop bit, while the "restart" should be just a
>> controller reset to use the current memory image.
>>
>> NONE OF THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING TO DO WITH SUSPEND.
>>
>> It never did. I've told people so for years. Maybe actually seeing the
>> problems will make people realize.
>>
>
> I think so.
>
>
>> So please, we shouldn't call "->suspend[_late]" or "->resume[_early]" at
>> all. Not with PMSG_FREEZE, not with PMSG_*anything*.
>>
>> Can we please get this fixed some day?
>>
>
> Yes, we can (hopefully).
>
> Thanks,
> Rafael
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-20 21:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-20 17:17 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 17:19 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 17:37 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 18:02 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 19:43 ` [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off aftersuspend-to-disk. " Romano Giannetti
2008-02-21 21:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:20 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 0:23 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:42 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 0:46 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:52 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 1:27 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-22 1:35 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 10:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-22 13:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-22 16:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-22 18:01 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-23 11:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-22 0:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 0:42 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:01 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-22 1:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 0:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-22 0:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 1:13 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 1:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 23:31 ` i915 hibernation patch (was: Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off aftersuspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 1:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-23 1:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 2:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-23 4:36 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-23 18:13 ` [PATCH] PM: Introduce PM_EVENT_HIBERNATE (was: Re: i915 hibernation patch (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer ...)) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-24 8:29 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-24 15:21 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-24 4:16 ` Mirco Tischler
2008-02-24 11:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 11:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 11:17 ` i915 hibernation patch (was: Re: [Suspend-devel] 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off aftersuspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green.) Pavel Machek
2008-02-20 17:54 ` 2.6.25-rc2 System no longer powers off after suspend-to-disk. Screen becomes green Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-18 6:31 ` [Suspend-devel] " Pavel Machek
2008-02-20 18:49 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 19:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-20 18:57 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 17:50 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 18:29 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 18:53 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 19:10 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 19:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 20:09 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 20:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 20:33 ` [Suspend-devel] " Pablo Sanchez
2008-02-20 20:41 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 21:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-21 8:30 ` david
2008-02-22 16:56 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22 17:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 17:32 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-22 17:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 19:23 ` david
2008-02-22 23:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 22:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-20 23:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 0:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-21 0:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 0:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-02-21 0:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 16:54 ` Mark Lord
2008-02-20 22:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 0:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-21 0:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 0:46 ` Greg KH
2008-02-21 1:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 4:43 ` Greg KH
2008-02-21 6:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-21 6:37 ` Greg KH
2008-02-21 1:10 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-02-21 1:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-02-20 20:45 ` [Suspend-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 21:26 ` Alexey Starikovskiy [this message]
2008-02-20 21:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 0:35 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 0:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 1:19 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 1:21 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 1:49 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 2:00 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-21 16:27 ` [Suspend-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 18:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 22:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 23:45 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-22 0:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-22 0:48 ` Jeff Chua
2008-02-20 22:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 23:03 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 23:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-20 23:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 0:17 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-02-21 1:07 ` [Suspend-devel] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 18:47 ` Mark Lord
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