From: Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>
To: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
Cc: Gregory Nietsky <gregory@networksentry.co.za>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
kkeil@suse.de, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
isdn4linux@listserv.isdn4linux.de,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Subject: Re: Plans for mISDN? Was: [PATCH 00/14] [ISDN] ...
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:33:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BD5360.5070706@debian.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47BC370F.3000705@imap.cc>
Hi,
Tilman Schmidt wrote:
> mISDN has two problems, which are of course interrelated:
mISDN has one problem that is even bigger than these: the kernel oopses
if modules aren't loaded in the right order. misdn-init works around
that, but if it doesn't work for some reason (and I can think of
multiple here), the user is left with a kernel that oopses during
hardware discovery and never gets to a stage where this can be
rectified, as almost all distributions now have hardware discovery
before the first opportunity to get a shell. At least these were my
experiences the last time I tried it on my test box.
This is the reason I've kept mISDN out of the last two Debian stable
releases, despite users' requests.
When a hardware driver module is loaded, it should only do basic
hardware initialisation; it is certainly not necessary to set up the
entire stack (or even decide on a protocol, which currently needs to be
handed in via module parameter -- before userland code is there that
wants to talk to the hardware, there is no reason to have the hardware
active).
Simon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-21 11:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-16 4:41 [PATCH 00/14] [ISDN] convert HiSax to hotplug APIs Jeff Garzik
2008-02-16 4:41 ` [PATCH 01/14] [ISDN] HiSax: modularization prep Jeff Garzik
2007-07-18 3:46 ` [PATCH 04/14] [ISDN] HiSax bkm_a4t: convert to PCI hotplug API Jeff Garzik
2007-07-18 3:49 ` [PATCH 05/14] [ISDN] HiSax enternow: " Jeff Garzik
2007-07-18 3:54 ` [PATCH 06/14] [ISDN] HiSax hfc_pci, w6692: " Jeff Garzik
2007-07-18 3:59 ` [PATCH 07/14] [ISDN] HiSax nj_s, nj_u: " Jeff Garzik
2007-07-18 4:02 ` [PATCH 08/14] [ISDN] HiSax telespci: " Jeff Garzik
2007-07-24 12:26 ` [PATCH 11/14] [ISDN] HiSax niccy: convert to modern ISA/PNP/PCI probing Jeff Garzik
2007-08-02 12:37 ` [PATCH 14/14] [ISDN] HiSax bkm_a8: convert to PCI hotplug API Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 5:10 ` [PATCH 03/14] [ISDN] Ready HiSax driver for modularization Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 5:11 ` [PATCH 09/14] [ISDN] HiSax avm_pci: convert to modern PCI/ISA/PNP probing Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 5:12 ` [PATCH 10/14] [ISDN] HiSax gazel: convert to modern ISA/PCI probing Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 5:13 ` [PATCH 13/14] [ISDN] HiSax diva: convert to modern ISA/PNP/PCI probing Jeff Garzik
2007-10-31 7:42 ` [PATCH 02/14] [ISDN] Hisax: eliminate many unnecessary references to CardType[] Jeff Garzik
2008-02-16 19:17 ` [PATCH 12/14] [ISDN] HiSax avm_pci, niccy: minor PNP fixes and cleanups Jeff Garzik
2008-02-17 19:52 ` Plans for mISDN? Was: [PATCH 00/14] [ISDN] Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-18 4:52 ` Greg KH
2008-02-18 12:08 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-18 12:04 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-18 12:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-02-18 13:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19 8:50 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-19 9:25 ` Gregory Nietsky
2008-02-19 9:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-20 14:19 ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-02-20 14:23 ` Alan Cox
2008-02-20 16:54 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-20 18:23 ` Plans for mISDN? Tilman Schmidt
2008-02-20 19:04 ` Plans for mISDN? Was: [PATCH 00/14] [ISDN] Gregory Nietsky
2008-02-20 22:47 ` Plans for mISDN? Tilman Schmidt
2008-02-21 10:33 ` Simon Richter [this message]
2008-02-21 19:38 ` Plans for mISDN? Was: [PATCH 00/14] [ISDN] Gregory Nietsky
2008-02-21 19:46 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-02-21 23:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-21 23:30 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-02-21 23:40 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-22 12:04 ` Karsten Keil
2008-02-23 19:39 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-25 14:39 ` Plans for mISDN? Tilman Schmidt
2008-03-03 17:32 ` Karsten Keil
2008-02-19 9:40 ` Plans for mISDN? Was: [PATCH 00/14] [ISDN] Andi Kleen
2008-02-19 9:56 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-19 9:58 ` Andi Kleen
2008-02-19 10:51 ` Armin Schindler
2008-02-19 11:55 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-19 16:12 ` Gregory Nietsky
2008-02-19 16:14 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-02-20 14:24 ` Tilman Schmidt
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2008-02-25 15:45 ` Bodo Eggert
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