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From: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <syrjala@sci.fi>,
	"Krzysztof Halasa" <khc@pm.waw.pl>, "Zan Lynx" <zlynx@acm.org>,
	"Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz" <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	"Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	jeff@garzik.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, alan@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] pata: "I do not think it means, what you think it means."
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:58:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D006A1.8070000@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080306111304.GK531@sci.fi>

Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 02:33:29AM +0100, Krzysztof Halasa wrote:
>> Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org> writes:
>>
>>> In my experience what they needed was proper cooling.  I have a 3ware
>>> RAID-5 array of 4 120 GB DeskStar drives still working.
>> I think the largest "deathstars" (75GXP?) were 75 GB.
> 
> AFAIK there were basically two series of deathstars. The original
> DTLA<something> and the more recent IC35<something>. The IC35 series
> were bigger (120GB is the most common size I've seen for those).
> Proper cooling and firmware upgrade usually fixed the deathstarness on
> both series. I still have some of both, not in active use for a year or
> two but still working. As a strange coincidence I was just pulling out
> some old data from them yesterday.
..

The original Deathstar ailment had nothing to do with firmware or cooling.
But rather, a bad batch of chips that IBM had the misfortune to use a lot of.

The chips would grow tiny internal whiskers over a period of 2+ years,
and eventually short circuit themselves.

My last one died here just a few weeks ago, after sitting on the shelf
for nearly all of it's life.  Never more than perhaps 40 power-on hours total,
and never enough to get very warm.

Cheers


  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-06 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200803042316.m24NGI7k002489@imap1.linux-foundation.org>
2008-03-05  1:34 ` [patch 3/3] pata: "I do not think it means, what you think it means." Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05  1:30   ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-05  1:54     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 11:56     ` Alan Cox
2008-03-05 13:21       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 14:39         ` Alan Cox
2008-03-05 16:13           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 16:34         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-05 16:46           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 16:55             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-05 17:22               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-05 18:33                 ` Zan Lynx
2008-03-06  1:33                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-06 11:13                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2008-03-06 14:58                       ` Mark Lord [this message]
2008-03-06 15:00                         ` Mark Lord
2008-03-06 22:10                       ` Krzysztof Halasa

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