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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: NightStrike <nightstrike@gmail.com>,
	Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
	Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com>, Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>,
	Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Joe Buck <Joe.Buck@synopsys.com>, Jan Hubicka <hubicka@ucw.cz>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: RELEASE BLOCKER: Linux doesn't follow x86/x86-64 ABI wrt direction flag
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:50:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D012B4.3020104@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6dc9ffc80803060743h502fc96bj6117ef87a8555c3a@mail.gmail.com>

H.J. Lu wrote:
> I agree with it. There is no  right or wrong here Let's start from
> scratch and figure out
> what is the best way to handle this, assuming we are defining a new psABI.

No, I believe the right way to approach this is by applying the good 
old-fashioned principle from Ask Mr. Protocol:

	Be liberal in what you receive, conservative in what you send

In other words:

	a. Fix the kernel.  Already in progress.
	b. Do *not* make gcc assume DF is clean for now.  Adding a
	   switch would be a useful thing, since if nothing else it
	   would benefit embedded environments.  We might assume
	   DF is clean on 64 bits, since it appears it is rarely used
	   anyway, and 64 bits is more important in the long run.
	c. Once fixed kernels have been out long enough, we can
	   flip the default of the switch, one platform at a time if
	   need be (e.g. there may never be another SCO OpenServer.)

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-06 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-05 15:30 Linux doesn't follow x86/x86-64 ABI wrt direction flag Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 16:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 19:58   ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 20:23     ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 20:38       ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 20:42         ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 20:49           ` Jan Hubicka
2008-03-05 21:02             ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 21:20               ` RELEASE BLOCKER: " Joe Buck
2008-03-05 21:32                 ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-05 21:34                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 21:40                     ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-05 22:16                       ` David Miller
2008-03-05 22:37                         ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 22:51                         ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 22:58                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 23:07                             ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 23:10                               ` David Miller
2008-03-05 23:16                                 ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 23:12                               ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-05 21:43                     ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 21:44                       ` Richard Guenther
     [not found]                     ` <738B72DB-A1D6-43F8-813A-E49688D05771@apple.com>
2008-03-05 21:59                       ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 22:13                         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-05 22:21                           ` David Miller
2008-03-05 23:13                           ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-06  0:36                         ` Chris Lattner
2008-03-06  0:47                           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                             ` <578FCA7D-D7A6-44F6-9310-4A97C13CDCBE@apple.com>
2008-03-06  1:12                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06  9:17                                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-03-06 13:51                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-06 14:03                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-06 14:12                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-06 14:15                                       ` Andrew Haley
2008-03-06 17:58                                       ` Joe Buck
2008-03-06 18:10                                         ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-06 18:13                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-06 18:31                                             ` Jack Lloyd
2008-03-06 18:35                                               ` Andrew Pinski
2008-03-06 19:44                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-06 19:43                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-06 20:16                                                 ` Jack Lloyd
2008-03-06 21:37                                                   ` Artur Skawina
2008-03-06 15:09                                   ` Robert Dewar
2008-03-06 15:37                                   ` NightStrike
2008-03-06 15:43                                     ` H.J. Lu
2008-03-06 15:50                                       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-03-06 16:23                                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-03-06 16:27                                           ` İsmail Dönmez
2008-03-06 16:58                                           ` H.J. Lu
2008-03-06 17:06                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 17:14                                               ` H.J. Lu
2008-03-06 17:17                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 17:34                                                   ` H.J. Lu
2008-03-06 19:35                                                     ` Robert Dewar
2008-03-06 17:18                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2008-03-06 17:19                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 19:25                                                     ` Robert Dewar
2008-03-06 20:37                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-07  8:28                                                       ` Florian Weimer
2008-03-07  8:00                                                     ` Andreas Jaeger
2008-03-06 15:57                                     ` Robert Dewar
2008-03-06 16:29                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-06 17:18                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 16:14                                   ` Artur Skawina
2008-03-06  0:49                           ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 22:05                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06  2:11                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-06  8:44                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-06  9:01                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-03-06 15:20                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 21:45                   ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 21:43                 ` Andrew Pinski
2008-03-05 21:43                 ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 22:12                   ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 22:17                   ` David Miller
2008-03-05 23:17                   ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-05 23:21                     ` David Daney
2008-03-06 14:06                       ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-08 19:10                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-03-05 21:07             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 20:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 20:52           ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 21:23             ` David Miller
2008-03-06  9:53             ` Andrew Haley
2008-03-06 11:45               ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-06 12:06                 ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-06 17:34                   ` Joe Buck
2008-03-06 20:54                     ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-06 20:56                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 22:06                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-07  4:56                           ` Chris Lattner
2008-03-07 14:09                           ` Michael Matz
2008-03-06  9:45       ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-03-05 16:56 ` H.J. Lu
2008-03-05 18:14 ` [PATCH] x86: Clear DF before calling signal handler Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 18:17   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06  9:21   ` Ingo Molnar

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