From: "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:11:37 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D81CD9.6000802@nortel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803121029.54108.phillips@phunq.net>
Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 March 2008 06:11, Alan Cox wrote:
>>No I get that. You've ignored the fact I'm suggesting that design choice
>>is dumb.
>
>
> You seem to be calling Linux unreliable.
It's more reliable than many others, but it's not perfect.
Besides, there are many failure modes beyond the control of the kernel.
Hardware errors can lock up the bus and prevent I/O, RAM modules can
go bad, technicians can yank out cards without waiting for the ready
light.
For certain classes of devices it's necessary to plan for these sorts of
things, and a model where the on-disk structures may be inconsistent by
design is not going to be very attractive.
Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-12 18:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-10 6:46 [ANNOUNCE] Ramback: faster than a speeding bullet Daniel Phillips
2008-03-10 7:51 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2008-03-10 8:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-10 9:37 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-10 21:03 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2008-03-11 11:14 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-11 11:23 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2008-03-11 11:50 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-11 17:26 ` Chris Friesen
2008-03-11 19:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-11 20:53 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-03-12 8:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-12 14:41 ` Mike Snitzer
2008-03-13 20:34 ` Rik van Riel
2008-03-14 2:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-11 21:56 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2008-03-11 23:02 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-12 13:25 ` Benny Amorsen
2008-03-12 13:30 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-13 15:29 ` Benny Amorsen
2008-03-14 9:30 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-14 11:07 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-14 11:41 ` Benny Amorsen
2008-03-14 12:12 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-14 12:56 ` Theodore Tso
2008-03-14 15:47 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-14 16:49 ` Theodore Tso
2008-03-14 17:04 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-14 18:03 ` david
2008-03-14 19:03 ` writeback cache dangers " Pavel Machek
2008-03-14 19:29 ` Theodore Tso
2008-03-13 9:15 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-03-11 23:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 13:27 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-13 19:02 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 19:12 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-13 19:38 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-11 4:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-10 9:22 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-10 19:01 ` Rik van Riel
2008-03-11 4:28 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-11 3:50 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-11 13:32 ` Artur Skawina
2008-03-11 14:31 ` Artur Skawina
2008-03-12 13:11 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-12 17:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-12 18:11 ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2008-03-12 22:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 5:45 ` David Newall
2008-03-13 6:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 6:30 ` David Newall
2008-03-13 6:50 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 7:05 ` David Newall
2008-03-13 7:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-15 13:32 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-15 20:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-15 21:33 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-15 21:47 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 6:32 ` david
2008-03-13 7:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 7:55 ` david
2008-03-13 8:06 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 8:39 ` david
2008-03-13 9:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 16:25 ` david
2008-03-13 19:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 19:50 ` David Newall
2008-03-13 20:03 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-14 17:53 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-03-15 20:26 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-15 20:40 ` Mike Snitzer
2008-03-15 21:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-15 20:18 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-15 20:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 9:49 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 5:39 ` David Newall
2008-03-13 6:14 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 13:22 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-13 19:14 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-13 20:27 ` Rik van Riel
2008-03-14 2:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-14 5:22 ` David Newall
2008-03-14 5:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-14 14:00 ` John Stoffel
2008-03-15 20:59 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-03-15 20:56 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-15 21:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-15 21:08 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-15 21:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-15 21:17 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-15 21:03 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-15 22:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-15 23:05 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-16 21:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-16 21:55 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-16 22:36 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-16 22:46 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-16 23:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-17 11:53 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-17 1:31 ` David Newall
2008-03-17 2:42 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-17 3:59 ` david
2008-03-17 5:52 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-17 6:49 ` david
2008-03-17 8:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-17 10:39 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-17 13:52 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-17 14:42 ` david
2008-03-17 17:23 ` david
2008-03-17 17:30 ` Willy Tarreau
[not found] ` <200803180233.10156.phillips@phunq.net>
2008-03-18 13:03 ` David Newall
2008-03-18 16:36 ` david
2008-03-31 11:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-04-01 0:28 ` david
2008-04-01 4:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-04-01 4:23 ` david
2008-04-01 6:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-18 13:57 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-31 11:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-17 7:14 ` David Newall
2008-03-17 8:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-17 18:56 ` David Newall
2008-03-23 9:33 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-23 20:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-15 21:54 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-03-15 22:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-15 23:22 ` david
2008-03-15 23:57 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-15 23:22 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-03-16 3:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-16 5:24 ` David Newall
2008-03-16 12:49 ` Ingo Oeser
2008-03-16 6:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-03-16 22:12 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-16 13:14 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-16 19:04 ` Theodore Tso
2008-03-16 22:02 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-15 23:18 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-03-16 5:42 ` David Newall
2008-03-16 20:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-16 22:15 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-16 22:38 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-16 23:08 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-16 23:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-10 14:51 ` Artur Skawina
2008-03-10 18:49 ` Chris Snook
2008-03-11 5:06 ` Greg KH
2008-03-11 5:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-03-11 5:48 ` david
2008-03-11 6:27 ` Greg KH
2008-03-12 12:01 ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-03-12 17:27 ` Daniel Phillips
[not found] <OFA00954A4.45F32CA2-ON8025740B.005D7B40-8025740B.005EECA6@sophos.com>
2008-03-13 19:34 ` Daniel Phillips
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