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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	frankeh@watson.ibm.com, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.osdl.org,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, hugh@veritas.com
Subject: Re: [patch 6/6] Guest page hinting: s390 support.
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:36:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47D84CEB.6050300@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47D8436F.9080901@codemonkey.ws>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Vp should never happen, since you'd never preserve a V page.  And 
>> surely it would be Pr -> Sr, since the hypervisor wouldn't push the 
>> page to backing store when you change the client state.
>>     
>
> You're right, I meant Vp/Pp but they are invalid states.  I think one of 
> the things that keeps tripping me up is that the host can change both 
> the host and guest page states.  My initial impression was that the host 
> handled the host state and the guest handled the guest state.
>   

Yes.  And it seems to me that you get unfortunate outcomes if you have a 
Pr->Vz->Vr transition.

>>> Do the host states even really need visibility to the guest at all?  
>>> It may be useful for the guest to be able to distinguish between Ur 
>>> and Uz but it doesn't seem necessary.
>>>       
>> Well, you implicitly see the hypervisor state.  If you touch a [UV]z 
>> page then you get a fault telling you that the page has been taken 
>> away from you (I think).  And it would definitely help with debugging 
>> (seems likely there's lots of scope for race conditions if you 
>> prematurely tell the hypervisor you don't need the page any more...).
>>     
>
> I was thinking that it may be useful to know a Ur verses a Uz when 
> allocating memory.  In this case, you'd rather allocate Ur pages verses 
> Uz to avoid the fault.  I don't read s390 arch code well, is the host 
> state explicit to the guest?
>   

Yes, reusing Ur pages might well be better, but who knows - they've 
probably got an instruction which makes Uz cheap...

Stuff like this suggets that both parts of the state are packed 
together, and are guest-visible:

+	return (state & ESSA_USTATE_MASK) == ESSA_USTATE_VOLATILE &&
+		(state & ESSA_CSTATE_MASK) == ESSA_CSTATE_ZERO;


      J

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-12 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-12 13:21 [patch 0/6] Guest page hinting version 6 Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 1/6] Guest page hinting: core + volatile page cache Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 23:12   ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-13  9:24     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 2/6] Guest page hinting: volatile swap cache Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 3/6] Guest page hinting: mlocked pages Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 23:27   ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-13  9:13     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 4/6] Guest page hinting: writable page table entries Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 23:35   ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-13  9:11     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 5/6] Guest page hinting: minor fault optimization Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 13:21 ` [patch 6/6] Guest page hinting: s390 support Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 16:19   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12 16:28     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 16:44       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12 16:59         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 17:48           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12 20:04             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-12 20:45               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-12 20:56                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-12 21:36                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2008-03-13  9:45                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13 16:07                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-13 16:17                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-13 16:55                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13 17:05                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-13 17:23                               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13  9:42                   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13  9:36                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13  9:32               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-12 22:41 ` [patch 0/6] Guest page hinting version 6 Rusty Russell
2008-03-13  9:47   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13 16:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-03-13 17:14   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-03-13 17:45   ` Zachary Amsden
2008-03-13 19:45     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-03-13 21:41       ` Zachary Amsden
2008-03-13 18:41   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-13 18:55     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-03-13 19:53       ` Zachary Amsden
2008-03-14 18:30         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-14 21:32           ` Zachary Amsden
2008-03-14 21:37             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-17  9:21             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-05-06 15:33   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-05-06 19:46     ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-07  3:49       ` Zachary Amsden
2008-05-07  7:00         ` Martin Schwidefsky
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-03-27 15:09 [patch 0/6] Guest page hinting version 7 Martin Schwidefsky
2009-03-27 15:09 ` [patch 6/6] Guest page hinting: s390 support Martin Schwidefsky
2009-04-01 16:18   ` Rik van Riel
2007-06-28 16:40 [patch 0/6] resend: guest page hinting version 5 Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-28 16:40 ` [patch 6/6] Guest page hinting: s390 support Martin Schwidefsky
2007-05-11 13:58 [patch 0/6] [rfc] guest page hinting version 5 Martin Schwidefsky
2007-05-11 13:58 ` [patch 6/6] Guest page hinting: s390 support Martin Schwidefsky

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