From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Peter Teoh <htmldeveloper@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@saeurebad.de>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: per cpun+ spin locks coexistence?
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:22:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47DEC4F4.5010703@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <804dabb00803171006i4423c5b6w58bd95116510d3f5@mail.gmail.com>
Peter Teoh a écrit :
> Thanks for the explanation, much apologies for this newbie discussion.
> But I still find it inexplicable:
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:20 AM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@saeurebad.de> wrote:
>
>> A per-cpu variable is basically an array the size of the number of
>> possible CPUs in the system. get_cpu_var() checks what current CPU we
>> are running on and gets the array-element corresponding to this CPU.
>>
>> So, really oversimplified, get_cpu_var(foo) translates to something like
>> foo[smp_processor_id()].
>>
>>
>
> Ok, so calling get_cpu_var() always return the array-element for the
> current CPU, and since by design, only the current CPU can
> modify/write to this array element (this is my assumption - correct?),
> and the other CPU will just read it (using the per_cpu construct).
> So far correct? So why do u still need to spin_lock() to lock other
> CPU from accessing - the other CPU will always just READ it, so just
> go ahead and let them read it. Seemed like it defeats the purpose of
> get_cpu_var()'s design?
>
> But supposed u really want to put a spin_lock(), just to be sure
> nobody is even reading it, or modifying it, so then what is the
> original purpose of get_cpu_var() - is it not to implement something
> that can be parallelized among different CPU, without affecting each
> other, and using no locks?
>
> The dual use of spin_lock+get_cpu_var() confuses me here :-). (not
> the per_cpu(), which I agree is supposed to be callabe from all the
> different CPU, for purpose of enumeration or data collection).
>
>
You are right Peter, that fs/file.c contains some leftover from previous
implementation of defer queue,
that was using a timer.
So we can probably provide a patch that :
- Use spin_lock() & spin_unlock() instead of spin_lock_bh() &
spin_unlock_bh() in free_fdtable_work()
since we dont anymore use a softirq (timer) to reschedule the workqueue.
( this timer was deleted by the following patch :
http://readlist.com/lists/vger.kernel.org/linux-kernel/50/251040.html
But, you cannot avoid use of spin_lock()/spin_unlock() because
schedule_work() makes no garantee that the work will be done by this cpu.
(free_fdtable_work() can be called to flush the fd defer queue of CPU X
on behalf CPU Y, with X != Y .
You then can have a corruption because CPU X is inside
free_fdtable_rcu() and CPU Y is inside free_fdtable_work() )
So both spin_lock() and get_cpu_var() are necessary :
- One to get the precpu data for optimal performance on SMP (but not
mandatory)
- One to protect the data from corruption on SMP.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-17 19:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-12 16:17 per cpun+ spin locks coexistence? Peter Teoh
2008-03-14 17:54 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-03-16 16:30 ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-16 20:20 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-17 17:06 ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-17 17:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-17 19:22 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2008-03-18 17:00 ` Peter Teoh
2008-03-18 17:34 ` Dipankar Sarma
2008-03-18 18:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-03-19 16:25 ` Peter Teoh
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