From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762229AbYCXT0f (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:26:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1760015AbYCXT01 (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:26:27 -0400 Received: from brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM ([192.18.98.34]:48730 "EHLO brmea-mail-3.sun.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759467AbYCXT00 (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:26:26 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 528 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:26:26 EDT Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:16:00 -0400 From: David Collier-Brown Subject: Vicious reviewer needed, for a bug reporting article To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: Alan Rocker Reply-to: davecb@Sun.COM Message-id: <47E7FDF0.8090607@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20041221 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Ingo Molnar once said (http://lwn.net/Articles/251784): | We must not ignore people who tell us that "there is something wrong | going on here", just because they are unable to analyze it themselves. | Very often where we end up saying "we don't know what's going on here" | it's likely _our_ fault. We also must not hide behind "please do these | 10 easy steps and 2 kernel recompiles and 10 reboots, only takes half | a day, and come back to us once you have the detailed debug data" | requests. To help address this, Alan Rocker and I wrote an article about how to do a good report of a kernel crash or hang, based on a course we gave for a well-known board supplier, on diagnosing and reporting bugs in their Linux drivers. We're nervous about the last few steps, submitting bugs to the kernel community, so we'd like people who care about the quality of bug reports to review us. Viciously. With lots of thrown brickbats. We'd really prefer to have it right before publishing (;-)) Everyone interested, drop me a line. --dave (currently contracting at Sun in Toronto) c-b -- David Collier-Brown | Always do right. This will gratify Sun Microsystems, Toronto | some people and astonish the rest davecb@sun.com | -- Mark Twain (905) 943-1983, cell: (647) 833-9377, (800) 555-9786 x56583