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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Venki Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	suresh.b.siddha@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: pat cpu feature bit setting for known cpus
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:38:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E962AE.9040307@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080325200830.GB15330@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Venki Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>  OK, note previous question: what is the motivation for having 
>>>>  this as a whitelist (as opposed to a blacklist)?
>>> Venkatesh could tell?
>> Main reason for white-list at this point is not to be side-tracked by 
>> real or potential erratas on older CPUs. Focussing on getting the 
>> support for this feature on current and future CPUs. If older CPUs 
>> have survived all these days without this feature, they should be 
>> doing OK.
> 
> well, the upside would be that since most testing of Linux kernels is 
> done on _old_ hardware (people tend to risk their old hw first ;-), we'd 
> get faster convergence of the codebase, even though we have the risk of 
> erratas (known and unknown ones alike). Code that artificially limits 
> its utility is almost always slow to stabilize.
> 

Yes, using a whitelist of this type is wrong, IMO, and smells faintly of 
vendor-lockin.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-25 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-25  6:24 [PATCH] x86: pat cpu feature bit setting for known cpus Yinghai Lu
2008-03-25 10:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-25 13:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 18:03   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-03-25 19:08     ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-03-25 20:08       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-25 20:38         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-03-25 23:01           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 23:05             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-03-25 23:06               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-25 23:08                 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-03-25 23:38                   ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-03-26  0:01                     ` Yinghai Lu
2008-03-26  0:10                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-28 13:41 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-28 14:51   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-03-30 11:43 ` dean gaudet

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