From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas@tungstengraphics.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
mingo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: create array based interface to change page attribute
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:01:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47F391BD.1060306@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47F32EDD.1080306@tungstengraphics.com>
Thomas Hellström wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>> Thomas Hellström wrote:
>>
>>> But what mappings are there, immediately after alloc_page(), that
>>> set_memory_np won't catch?
>>
>> For example on x86 64bit, the kernel text is mapped (to allow
>> relocatable) in another
>> space as well.. and to allow 2Mb tlbs for this, that second mapping is
>> bigger than it strictly needs to be.
>> So your alloc_page() could get a page from the free pool that comes
>> from the pages that have a second mapping
>> due to this rounding.
>> (and more fun, since it's close to frequently accessed memory, the hw
>> prefetchers may actually just decide to pull
>> such pages into the cache preemptively)
>>
>>
>>> Drivers relying on set_memory_uc touching all mappings the driver
>>> hasn't set up itself must then have the same problem and needs to be
>>> fixed; referring in particular to agpgart for which driver the old
>>> CPA functionality was once created, IIRC.
>>
>> "uc" is different than "np"; for "uc" the implementation, if your cpu
>> needs this, will fix
>> up the shadow text mappings already today.
>>
>> for "present" this doesn't make sense, since no cpu needs this.
> If this is the checkalias() thingy in x86/pageattr.c, it looks like it
> doesn't handle np different from the uc case. It does obviously skip NX
> bit manipulations, though.
>
> Anyway, a more direct question: If we were to fix whatever's missing for
> the code to fixup the x86-64 shadow text mapping, would you be opposing
> this way
I do really oppose set_memory_np/p to work on anything but the mapping it is handled.
that _uc and co touch other mappings is a cpu specific property and an implementation
detail to the API. If/When CPUs exist that don't have issues with aliases, those CPUs
will not change the other mappings.
> to fix the long standing uc/wc aliasing issue, provided we
I'm not opposed to a real fix. I am opposed to a bad hack.
> don't hit any other problems, like clflush() refusing to run on an NP page?
yes clflush doesn't work on not present pages ;)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-02 14:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-31 5:19 [PATCH] x86: create array based interface to change page attribute Dave Airlie
2008-03-31 6:54 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 9:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 11:04 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 7:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31 7:55 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 8:38 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31 9:06 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 9:18 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31 11:10 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 16:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 16:41 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 16:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 17:26 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-01 20:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-01 21:29 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-01 22:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02 6:30 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-02 6:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02 6:59 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-02 14:01 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-04-02 17:57 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 18:23 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 19:51 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 19:59 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 20:46 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 20:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-08 6:12 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 21:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-08 6:21 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-08 14:27 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 20:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-07 21:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 21:09 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-03-31 9:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 11:21 ` Dave Airlie
2008-03-31 11:46 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-02 1:35 ` Dave Airlie
2008-04-01 18:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
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