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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Pekka Paalanen <pq@iki.fi>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, vegard.nossum@gmail.com
Subject: Re: mmiotrace bug: recursive probe hit
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:36:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47F72C12.9020701@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080404000701.70bbc1a4@daedalus.pq.iki.fi>

Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:26:08 +0300
> Pekka Paalanen <pq@iki.fi> wrote:
>
>   
>> C) Vegard mentioned something about per-cpu page tables for kmemcheck.
>> This would be the ultimate solution, because it would solve two problems:
>> - recursive probe hits
>> - missed events due to another cpu disarming the page for single stepping
>> Would it be possible to have a single temporary per-cpu pte?
>>
>> I understood kmemcheck has similar issues. Of course, one could force the
>> system down to a single running CPU, but that feels nasty.
>>     
>
> One more idea:
>
>
> The catch is the instruction emulation. I see KVM has some emulation code,
> but I cannot understand it without a deep study that would take me weeks.
> Is that general enough to be used, or could it be generalized?
> Mmiotrace, apart from executing the instruction with a modified address,
> would need to extract the type of IO memory access, width and the data
> read/written. And since it is dealing with IO memory, the emulation
> should be very careful to access the hardware exactly like the original
> instruction would have.
>
> Maybe also kmemcheck could use this approach, since the current approach
> is very much like in mmiotrace: #pf, show page, single step, #db trap,
> hide page.
>
> Are there other x86(_64) instruction emulation facilities in the kernel
> I might use?
>
> Or, if the emulation cannot be used, what would it take to make at least
> instruction decoding general enough so that mmiotrace could use that instead
> of its own decoding?
>
> I fear modifying KVM emulation code is a too heavy job for me personally.
>   

It should not be too difficult to modify x86_emulate.c to do everything 
through a function vector.  However there is a simpler (for you) 
solution: run the driver-to-be-reverse-engineered in a kvm guest, and 
modify kvm userspace to log accesses to mmio regions.  This requires the 
not-yet-merged pci passthrough support.  You can reverse engineer 
Windows drivers with this as well.

This won't work for kmemcheck smp though.

-- 
Any sufficiently difficult bug is indistinguishable from a feature.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-05  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-09 14:40 [RFC] mmiotrace full patch, preview 2 Pekka Paalanen
2008-03-09 14:46 ` Pekka Paalanen
2008-03-27 23:13 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-03-28 18:24   ` Pekka Paalanen
2008-03-28 20:25 ` mmiotrace bug: recursive probe hit Pekka Paalanen
2008-03-30 17:26   ` Pekka Paalanen
2008-04-03 21:07     ` Pekka Paalanen
2008-04-03 21:40       ` Vegard Nossum
2008-04-04 13:18         ` Pekka Paalanen
2008-04-05  7:36       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-04-05  7:40         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-04-05 12:39           ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-05 15:58             ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-06 17:32         ` Pekka Paalanen

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