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From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas@tungstengraphics.com>
To: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: create array based interface to change page attribute
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:46:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47FA8826.2060802@tungstengraphics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200804071259.19743.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>

Jesse Barnes wrote:
> On Monday, April 07, 2008 12:51 pm Thomas Hellström wrote:
>   
>>> Hopefully the WC stuff will be upstream right after 2.6.25 comes out. 
>>> Any reason why we shouldn't keep the pages mapped in the kernel as WC
>>> assuming the interface is there?
>>>       
>> If the pages are unmapped, we can get reasonable speed doing
>> unbind-read-bind operations, kernel accesses to the memory will need to
>> use an iomap_atomic_prot_pfn() type of operation.
>> No IPI global tlb flushes needed for kernel mapping changes during
>> unbind-read-bind and no cache flushes needed either if we write-protect
>> the user-space mappings properly, or very limited cache flushes if we
>> keep dirty-written-while-cached flags for each page.
>>
>> If the pages are wc-d we'll need two extra IPI global tlb flushes and a
>> buffer-size cache flush every time we do unbind-read-bind, but OTOH we
>> don't need the iomap_atomic_prot_pfn() to access single pages from the
>> kernel.
>>     
>
> Why would we need to flush at all at unbind-read-bind time?  We should be able 
> to leave pages in the WC state even when we unbind them, then when we need to 
> bind them back into the GTT they'll be ready, but maybe I'm misunderstanding 
> you here...
>
>   
We want to make the user-space mapping cache-coherent after unbind 
during read, to have any serious read-speed, and the linear kernel map 
has to follow, unless it's non-present. Even if it's non present, we 
need to flush whatever was written through the user-space mapping from 
the cache when rebinding. Having the user-space mapping read-only when 
possible will help avoid this.
>>> Also, to make the API readable, we'd probably want to split the function
>>> into kernel_map_pages(..., enum memory_type type) and
>>> kernel_unmap_pages(...) (though like I said I think we really should be
>>> mapping them WC not umapping them altogether, since we do want to hit the
>>> ring buffer from the kernel with the WC type for example).
>>>       
>> I think ring-buffers are using ioremap() or vmap() already today. We can
>> use these to get WC-type access also in the future. The only time we use
>> the linear kernel mapping today is for single page access while patching
>> up command buffers.
>>     
>
> Yeah, they're ioremapped now, but that's a problem since with the PAT patches 
> they'll be mapped hard UC (right now it just happens to work).
>   
Ouch, so we'll be needing an ioremap_wc(), I guess. We probably 
shouldn't use the linear kernel map for this anyway, since that would 
require a chipset flush for each ring commit.  We can actually use 
vmap() with a wc page protection for that, but an ioremap_wc() would 
certainly save us a lot of trouble.
> Thanks,
> Jesse
>   
/Thomas





  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-07 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-31  5:19 [PATCH] x86: create array based interface to change page attribute Dave Airlie
2008-03-31  6:54 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31  9:33   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 11:04     ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31  7:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31  7:55   ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31  8:38     ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31  9:06       ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31  9:18         ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31 11:10           ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 16:08             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 16:41               ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 16:49                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 17:26                   ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-01 20:58                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-01 21:29                       ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-01 22:30                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02  6:30                           ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-02  6:35                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02  6:59                               ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-02 14:01                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02 17:57                                   ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 18:23                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 19:51                                       ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 19:59                                         ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 20:46                                           ` Thomas Hellström [this message]
2008-04-07 20:57                                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-08  6:12                                               ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 21:04                                             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-08  6:21                                               ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-08 14:27                                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 20:56                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-07 21:02                                             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 21:09                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2008-03-31  9:56   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 11:21   ` Dave Airlie
2008-03-31 11:46     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-02  1:35       ` Dave Airlie
2008-04-01 18:20 ` Arjan van de Ven

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