From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas@tungstengraphics.com>
To: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
mingo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: create array based interface to change page attribute
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:46:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47FA8826.2060802@tungstengraphics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200804071259.19743.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Jesse Barnes wrote:
> On Monday, April 07, 2008 12:51 pm Thomas Hellström wrote:
>
>>> Hopefully the WC stuff will be upstream right after 2.6.25 comes out.
>>> Any reason why we shouldn't keep the pages mapped in the kernel as WC
>>> assuming the interface is there?
>>>
>> If the pages are unmapped, we can get reasonable speed doing
>> unbind-read-bind operations, kernel accesses to the memory will need to
>> use an iomap_atomic_prot_pfn() type of operation.
>> No IPI global tlb flushes needed for kernel mapping changes during
>> unbind-read-bind and no cache flushes needed either if we write-protect
>> the user-space mappings properly, or very limited cache flushes if we
>> keep dirty-written-while-cached flags for each page.
>>
>> If the pages are wc-d we'll need two extra IPI global tlb flushes and a
>> buffer-size cache flush every time we do unbind-read-bind, but OTOH we
>> don't need the iomap_atomic_prot_pfn() to access single pages from the
>> kernel.
>>
>
> Why would we need to flush at all at unbind-read-bind time? We should be able
> to leave pages in the WC state even when we unbind them, then when we need to
> bind them back into the GTT they'll be ready, but maybe I'm misunderstanding
> you here...
>
>
We want to make the user-space mapping cache-coherent after unbind
during read, to have any serious read-speed, and the linear kernel map
has to follow, unless it's non-present. Even if it's non present, we
need to flush whatever was written through the user-space mapping from
the cache when rebinding. Having the user-space mapping read-only when
possible will help avoid this.
>>> Also, to make the API readable, we'd probably want to split the function
>>> into kernel_map_pages(..., enum memory_type type) and
>>> kernel_unmap_pages(...) (though like I said I think we really should be
>>> mapping them WC not umapping them altogether, since we do want to hit the
>>> ring buffer from the kernel with the WC type for example).
>>>
>> I think ring-buffers are using ioremap() or vmap() already today. We can
>> use these to get WC-type access also in the future. The only time we use
>> the linear kernel mapping today is for single page access while patching
>> up command buffers.
>>
>
> Yeah, they're ioremapped now, but that's a problem since with the PAT patches
> they'll be mapped hard UC (right now it just happens to work).
>
Ouch, so we'll be needing an ioremap_wc(), I guess. We probably
shouldn't use the linear kernel map for this anyway, since that would
require a chipset flush for each ring commit. We can actually use
vmap() with a wc page protection for that, but an ioremap_wc() would
certainly save us a lot of trouble.
> Thanks,
> Jesse
>
/Thomas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-07 20:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-31 5:19 [PATCH] x86: create array based interface to change page attribute Dave Airlie
2008-03-31 6:54 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 9:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 11:04 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 7:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31 7:55 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 8:38 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31 9:06 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 9:18 ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-31 11:10 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 16:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 16:41 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-03-31 16:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 17:26 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-01 20:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-01 21:29 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-01 22:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02 6:30 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-02 6:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02 6:59 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-02 14:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-02 17:57 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 18:23 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 19:51 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 19:59 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 20:46 ` Thomas Hellström [this message]
2008-04-07 20:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-08 6:12 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-07 21:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-08 6:21 ` Thomas Hellström
2008-04-08 14:27 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 20:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-07 21:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-04-07 21:09 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-03-31 9:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-31 11:21 ` Dave Airlie
2008-03-31 11:46 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-02 1:35 ` Dave Airlie
2008-04-01 18:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
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