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From: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
To: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	jesper.juhl@gmail.com, tilman@imap.cc, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	rjw@sisk.pl, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:19:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47FF6555.50004@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804110849520.28360@wrl-59.cs.helsinki.fi>

Ilpo Järvinen wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Mark Lord wrote:
> 
>> David Miller wrote:
>>> From: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
>>> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:27:14 -0400
>>>
>>>> It's *your* bug -- you signed off on the commit.
>>> I sign off on basically every networking commit, does that mean I have
>>> to fix every networking bug and every networking bug is "mine"?
>> ..
>>
>> Absolutely, though to a varying degree.  That's the responsibility
>> that goes with the role of a subsystem maintainer.  I once had
>> such a role, and gave it up when I felt I could no longer keep up.  
>> You still keep refering to it as "your (my) bug".
>> It's not.  I had nothing to do with it, other than stumbling over it.
> 
> This bug is perfect example where bisect clearly was useful :-). Nobody 
> knew whose bug it actually was until your bisect gave directions.
> 
>> When people stumble over a libata bug, I look hard to see if my code
>> could possibly cause it.  Jeff looks even harder, because he's the
>> current subsystem dude for libata.
>>
>> I never suggest a user search through a mountain of unrelated commits
>> for something I've screwed up on.
> 
> But it is ok for you to ask an innocent net developer to do that (even 
> with your terms as I hadn't signed off _anything_ related to that one),
> hmm?
> 
> ...You had this pretty demanding tone earlier:
> 
>> Or I can ignore it, like the net developers, since I have a workaround.
>> And then we'll see what other apps are broken upon 2.6.25 final release.
..

That's not demanding, that's quite relaxed.  I had a good workaround,
and didn't really care any more at that point.  Just though it was rather
odd that none of the developers seemed interested in tracking it down.
I offered tons of help, gave it, and said I didn't have time for a full
bisect at that juncture.

For that, I get repeatedly slammed by the netdev folks.
Even after I put aside *paid* work to submit to your demands.

Next time around, I won't bother reporting bugs to you folks,
that's for damned sure.

Cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-11 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-08 23:02 [Bug #10391] 2.6.25-rc7/8: Another resume regression Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-09  4:49 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09  4:56 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Mark Lord
2008-04-09 13:37   ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 14:06     ` Regression: " Mark Lord
2008-04-09 16:46     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 17:16       ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 17:27         ` Regression: " Mark Lord
2008-04-09 17:30         ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2008-04-09 19:05           ` Mark Lord
2008-04-09 19:08             ` Jeff Garzik
2008-04-09 22:29             ` David Miller
2008-04-10  0:02               ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10  0:37                 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-04-10 13:52                   ` Gerhard Mack
2008-04-10 15:15                     ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 15:58                       ` Gerhard Mack
2008-04-10  1:22                 ` David Miller
2008-04-10 15:07                   ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 15:20                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-10 22:09                     ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-10 22:46                       ` David Miller
2008-04-10 22:52                         ` Charlie Brady
2008-04-10 23:02                         ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-10 23:05                           ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:10                         ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:14                           ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:32                             ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:41                               ` David Miller
2008-04-10 23:51                                 ` vincent-perrier
2008-04-10 23:39                           ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-11  0:16                         ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11  0:24                           ` David Miller
2008-04-11  0:27                             ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11  0:39                               ` David Miller
2008-04-11  1:23                                 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11  6:40                                   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 13:19                                     ` Mark Lord [this message]
2008-04-11 14:35                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 14:59                                         ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11 15:18                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 18:07                                             ` David Miller
2008-04-11 21:29                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12  8:44                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-12  9:49                                                 ` David Miller
2008-04-13 18:15                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:51                                                     ` Sergio Luis
2008-04-13 19:24                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-11 19:58                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:16                                         ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11 22:25                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-11 22:27                                             ` David Miller
2008-04-11 23:23                                             ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-12  5:37                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-12  7:06                                               ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-11 22:26                                           ` David Miller
2008-04-11 19:58                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-04-11 22:27                                     ` Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-13 18:40                                       ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 18:47                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-13 19:18                                           ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-13 19:27                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 19:47                                             ` Reporting bugs and bisection David Miller
2008-04-13 20:21                                             ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 20:33                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 20:54                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 22:24                                                   ` Reporting bugs and bisection Stephen Clark
2008-04-13 22:41                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:51                                                     ` david
2008-04-14  0:36                                                       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-14  4:39                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14  5:39                                                         ` Al Viro
2008-04-14  6:24                                                           ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14  6:39                                                             ` David Miller
2008-04-14  6:43                                                               ` David Miller
2008-04-14  7:23                                                             ` Al Viro
2008-04-14  7:43                                                               ` Al Viro
2008-04-14  8:04                                                               ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14  8:30                                                                 ` David Miller
2008-04-14  9:06                                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-14  9:46                                                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15  5:25                                                                     ` Bill Fink
2008-04-14 10:15                                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 10:41                                                                     ` David Miller
2008-04-14 17:35                                                                       ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-04-14 12:08                                                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14 14:43                                                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 17:51                                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 18:24                                                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-14 19:30                                                                     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-14 15:54                                                               ` James Morris
2008-04-14 22:01                                                                 ` David Miller
2008-04-14 23:05                                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-15  4:55                                                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-15 13:18                                                                       ` Work WAS(Re: " jamal
2008-04-15  9:33                                                                 ` David Newall
2008-04-15  9:54                                                                   ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-04-15 14:04                                                                     ` David Newall
2008-04-15 20:51                                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16  2:34                                                                         ` David Newall
2008-04-16  3:53                                                                           ` david
2008-04-16  9:06                                                                             ` David Newall
2008-04-16 11:02                                                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-16 12:41                                                                             ` Stephen Clark
2008-04-16  4:29                                                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 12:13                                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-16 12:15                                                                   ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 13:26                                                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:02                                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-16 19:43                                                                         ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 19:55                                                                         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-17 13:50                                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-04-17 15:26                                                                             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 19:58                                                                         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-16 20:01                                                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-16 19:39                                                                       ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 20:16                                                                         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:53                                                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 21:05                                                                             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-16 21:25                                                                               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-16 20:04                                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-16 20:55                                                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-04-16 21:17                                                                     ` Jesper Juhl
2008-04-17 17:04                                                                       ` David Newall
2008-04-17 19:09                                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-17 19:35                                                                           ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 19:57                                                                             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2008-04-17 20:16                                                                             ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 20:38                                                                               ` Ray Lee
2008-04-17 20:53                                                                                 ` Al Viro
2008-04-17 21:01                                                                                   ` Ray Lee
2008-04-14 19:13                                                             ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14 20:38                                                               ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-14 22:18                                                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-04-14  9:26                                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:35                                               ` David Miller
2008-04-14 10:18                                             ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-14 10:29                                               ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-13 20:10                                           ` Reporting bugs and bisection (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Adrian Bunk
2008-04-14  9:58                                           ` Reporting bugs and bisection Andi Kleen
2008-04-14 10:00                                             ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-14 10:16                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-15 21:53                                 ` about bisections (was: Re: 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors) Ingo Molnar
2008-04-15 22:30                                   ` about bisections David Miller
2008-04-15 22:48                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-11  0:56                             ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Tilman Schmidt
2008-04-11  1:08                               ` David Miller
2008-04-11  0:26                           ` David Miller
2008-04-11  0:29                             ` Mark Lord
2008-04-11  2:59                               ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2008-04-11  3:18                                 ` [PATCH 2.6.25] net sockets: fix timewait namespace regression Mark Lord
2008-04-11  3:51                                   ` David Miller
2008-04-11  7:50                                 ` 2.6.25-rc8: FTP transfer errors Pavel Emelyanov
2008-04-10 20:46                 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-04-10 21:05                   ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 21:43                     ` Ilpo Järvinen
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2008-04-12  8:41 devzero
2008-04-13 20:22 ` Adrian Bunk

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