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From: Seewer Philippe <philippe.seewer@bfh.ch>
To: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Francis Moreau <francis.moro@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Disk geometry from /sys
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:37:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4808A409.3080406@bfh.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4808A09B.6090106@rtr.ca>


Mark Lord wrote:
> That can sound a bit misleading.  The complete story, for ATA/SATA drives,
> is that the disk has two geometries:  an internal physical one, with a 
> fixed number of heads and cylinders, but variable sectors/track
> (which normally varies by cylinder zone).
> 
> Software *never* sees or knows about that geometry, so ignore it.
> 
> The second geometry, is the one that the drive reports to software
> as its "native" geometry.  This is what you see from "hdparm -I"
> and friends, and this geometry is what has to be used by software
> when using cylinder/head/sector (CHS) addressing for I/O operations.
> The hardware interface has a limit of 4-bits for the head value,
> so the maximum number of heads can never be more than 16.
> 
> Nobody uses CHS addressing for I/O operations, at least not on
> any hardware newer than at least ten years old, so this geometry
> is also unimportant for most uses.
> 
> That's what the drive knows about.
> 
> Software, for compatibility with the MS-DOS partition table scheme,
> sometimes uses a "logical" geometry, where we "pretend" that a drive
> can have up to 255 heads, which then allows more of the disk to be
> described within the limitations of the partition table data layout.
> That's where one frequently sees "255 heads", even though the drive
> underneath uses 16 at the interface level, and probably as only 2
> or 4 real heads inside the shell.

Aye. Though I prefer the term virtual geometry. But thats cosmetics. 
Sorry for beeing unclear, and many thanks for untangling my post.

If anyones interested in even more Details about C/H/S adressing and so 
on, there's a very good document about that to be found here:
http://www.mossywell.com/boot-sequence/

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-18 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-09 20:53 Disk geometry from /sys Francis Moreau
2008-04-09 21:28 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-09 21:52   ` Alan Cox
2008-04-09 22:16   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-04-10 14:52     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-10 19:23   ` Francis Moreau
2008-04-09 21:57 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 19:05   ` Francis Moreau
2008-04-10 19:53     ` Mark Lord
2008-04-10 12:22 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2008-04-10 19:15   ` Francis Moreau
2008-04-10 13:58 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-04-14 12:57 ` Seewer Philippe
2008-04-15  7:40   ` Francis Moreau
2008-04-16  7:49     ` Seewer Philippe
2008-04-17 14:09       ` Francis Moreau
2008-04-17 14:49         ` Seewer Philippe
2008-04-18 13:22           ` Mark Lord
2008-04-18 13:37             ` Seewer Philippe [this message]
2008-04-22 20:11               ` Francis Moreau
2008-04-23  6:44                 ` Seewer Philippe
2008-04-23  6:56                   ` Francis Moreau
2008-04-22 20:16             ` Francis Moreau
2008-04-22 22:44               ` Mark Lord
2008-04-23  6:53                 ` Seewer Philippe
2008-04-23  7:02                 ` Francis Moreau
2008-04-23  9:33                   ` Seewer Philippe
2008-04-23 13:47                   ` Mark Lord
2008-04-22 20:10           ` Francis Moreau
2008-04-23  6:48             ` Seewer Philippe

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